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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH -v3] take all anon_vma locks in anon_vma_lock
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:10:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BD8EA85.2000209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y2s28c262361004281728we31e3b9fsd2427aacdc76a9e7@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/28/2010 08:28 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Rik van Riel<riel@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> Take all the locks for all the anon_vmas in anon_vma_lock, this properly
>> excludes migration and the transparent hugepage code from VMA changes done
>> by mmap/munmap/mprotect/expand_stack/etc...
>>
>> Unfortunately, this requires adding a new lock (mm->anon_vma_chain_lock),
>> otherwise we have an unavoidable lock ordering conflict.  This changes the
>> locking rules for the "same_vma" list to be either mm->mmap_sem for write,
>> or mm->mmap_sem for read plus the new mm->anon_vma_chain lock.  This limits
>> the place where the new lock is taken to 2 locations - anon_vma_prepare and
>> expand_downwards.
>>
>> Document the locking rules for the same_vma list in the anon_vma_chain and
>> remove the anon_vma_lock call from expand_upwards, which does not need it.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Rik van Riel<riel@redhat.com>
>
> This patch makes things simple. So I like this.
> Actually, I wanted this all-at-once locks approach.
> But I was worried about that how the patch affects AIM 7 workload
> which is cause of anon_vma_chain about scalability by Rik.
> But now Rik himself is sending the patch. So I assume the patch
> couldn't decrease scalability of the workload heavily.

The thing is, the number of anon_vmas attached to a VMA is
small (depth of the tree, so for apache or aim the typical
depth is 2). This N is between 1 and 3.

The problem we had originally is the _width_ of the tree,
where every sibling process was attached to the same anon_vma
and the rmap code had to walk the page tables of all the
processes, for every privately owned page in each child process.
For large server workloads, this N is between a few hundred and
a few thousand.

What matters most at this point is correctness - we need to be
able to exclude rmap walks when messing with a VMA in any way
that breaks lookups, because rmap walks for page migration and
hugepage conversion have to be 100% reliable.

That is not a constraint I had in mind with the original
anon_vma changes, so the code needs to be fixed up now...

I suspect that taking one or two extra spinlocks in the code
paths changed by this patch (mmap/munmap/...) is going to make
a difference at all, since all of those paths are pretty
infrequently taken.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-29  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-27 21:30 [PATCH 0/3] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V2 Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 21:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm,migration: During fork(), wait for migration to end if migration PTE is encountered Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 22:22   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-27 23:52     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  0:18       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  0:19         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  0:28           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  0:59             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  8:24       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 21:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 23:10   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  9:15     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 15:35       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 15:39         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 15:55         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 16:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 17:34             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 17:58               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 17:47             ` [RFC PATCH] take all anon_vma locks in anon_vma_lock Rik van Riel
2010-04-28 18:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 18:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-28 18:25               ` [RFC PATCH -v2] " Rik van Riel
2010-04-28 19:07                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 20:17                 ` [RFC PATCH -v3] " Rik van Riel
2010-04-28 20:57                   ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-29  0:28                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-29  2:10                       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2010-04-29  2:55                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-29  6:42                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-29 15:39                           ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-29  7:37                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-29  8:15                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-29  8:32                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-29  8:44                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 21:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm,migration: Remove straggling migration PTEs when page tables are being moved after the VMA has already moved Mel Gorman
2010-04-27 22:30   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-27 22:58     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  0:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  1:05         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  1:09           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  1:18           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  1:36             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  1:29       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  1:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  2:12           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  2:42             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  2:49               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  7:28                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28 10:48                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28  0:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  0:08     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  0:36       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  8:30   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28 14:46     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-27 22:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V2 Christoph Lameter
2010-04-27 22:32   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  0:13     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-28  0:20       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 14:23         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 14:57           ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 15:16             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 15:23               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-28 15:45                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 20:40                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28 21:05                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-04-28  9:17     ` Mel Gorman

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