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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:59:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C19030A.4070406@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100616075723.GT6138@laptop>

On 06/16/2010 03:57 AM, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:13:09PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> On 06/15/2010 12:54 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:49:49PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
>>>> This is already in a filesystem.  Why does ->writepage get
>>>> called a second time?  Shouldn't this have a gfp_mask
>>>> without __GFP_FS set?
>>>
>>> Why would it?  GFP_NOFS is not for all filesystem code, but only for
>>> code where we can't re-enter the filesystem due to deadlock potential.
>>
>> Why?   How about because you know the stack is not big enough
>> to have the XFS call path on it twice? :)
>>
>> Isn't the whole purpose of this patch series to prevent writepage
>> from being called by the VM, when invoked from a deep callstack
>> like xfs writepage?
>>
>> That sounds a lot like simply wanting to not have GFP_FS...
>
> buffered write path uses __GFP_FS by design because huge amounts
> of (dirty) memory can be allocated in doing pagecache writes. If
> would be nasty if that was not allowed to wait for filesystem
> activity.

__GFP_IO can wait for filesystem activity

__GFP_FS can kick off new filesystem activity

At least, that's how I remember it from when I last looked
at that code in detail.  Things may have changed subtly.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-16 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-08  9:02 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 1/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for kswapd wakeup, sleeping and direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 2/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for LRU page isolation Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 3/6] tracing, vmscan: Add trace event when a page is written Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 4/6] tracing, vmscan: Add a postprocessing script for reclaim-related ftrace events Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 5/6] vmscan: Write out ranges of pages contiguous to the inode where possible Mel Gorman
2010-06-11  6:10   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:49     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 19:07       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 20:44         ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 21:33           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-12  0:17             ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08  9:02 ` [PATCH 6/6] vmscan: Do not writeback pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-06-11  6:17   ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:54     ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 17:43       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 17:49         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:13           ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-08  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Do not call ->writepage[s] from direct reclaim and use a_ops->writepages() where possible Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08  9:28   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:15       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 19:12       ` Chris Mason
2010-06-09  2:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-09  9:52   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-10  0:38     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-10  1:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-10  1:29         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-11  5:57 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-11 12:33   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-11 16:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-11 18:17       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 14:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:22     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 14:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 15:08         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 15:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 15:45             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:26               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:31                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:49                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 19:13                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 19:17                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 19:44                         ` Chris Mason
2010-06-16  7:57                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-16 16:59                         ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2010-06-16 17:04                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 15:38           ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:14             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:22               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:30               ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:34                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:54                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 16:35                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:37                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-06-15 17:43                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 16:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-15 14:51   ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 14:55     ` Rik van Riel
2010-06-15 15:08     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 15:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-06-15 16:28     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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