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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rsync@lists.samba.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: fadvise DONTNEED implementation (or lack thereof)
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:24:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CE49C8B.2050005@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin2fXGOAdGNegDhijjo_kV7nOBJP_hagjgoYdtX@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/17/2010 09:47 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Rik van Riel<riel@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> On 11/17/2010 05:16 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely. But how about rsync's two touch?
>>> It can evict working set.
>>>
>>> I need the time for investigation.
>>> Thanks for the comment.
>>
>> Maybe we could exempt MADV_SEQUENTIAL and FADV_SEQUENTIAL
>> touches from promoting the page to the active list?
>>
>
> The problem is non-mapped file page.
> non-mapped file page promotion happens by only mark_page_accessed.
> But it doesn't enough information to prevent promotion(ex, vma or file)

I believe we have enough information in filemap.c and can just
pass that as a parameter to mark_page_accessed.

> Here is another idea.
> Current problem is following as.
> User can use fadivse with FADV_DONTNEED.
> But problem is that it can't affect when it meet dirty pages.
> So user have to sync dirty page before calling fadvise with FADV_DONTNEED.
> It would lose performance.
>
> Let's add some semantic of FADV_DONTNEED.
> It invalidates only pages which are not dirty.
> If it meets dirty page, let's move the page into inactive's tail or head.
> If we move the page into tail, shrinker can move it into head again
> for deferred write if it isn't written the backed device.

That sounds like a good idea.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-18  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-04  5:58 fadvise DONTNEED implementation (or lack thereof) Ben Gamari
2010-11-06 16:23 ` Wayne Davison
2010-11-09  7:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09  8:03   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09 12:54   ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-14  5:09     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14  5:20       ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-14 21:33         ` Brian K. White
2010-11-15  6:07       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-15  7:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15  7:19           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-15  7:28             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15  7:46               ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-15 12:46               ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-15  8:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-15  9:05           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-15 14:48             ` Rik van Riel
2010-11-17 10:16               ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-17 11:15                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-17 16:22                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-11-18  2:47                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-18  3:24                     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2010-11-18  3:46                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-15  9:10           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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