From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Add a sysctl option controlling kexec when MCE occurred
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:33:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D1638DE.1080005@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1oc89ixc5.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On 12/25/2010 09:19 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> So, kdump may receive wrong identifier when it starts after MCE
>> occurred, because MCE is reported by memory, cache, and TLB errors
>>
>> In the worst case, kdump will overwrite user data if it recognizes a
>> disk saving user data as a dump disk.
>
> Absurdly unlikely there is a sha256 checksum verified over the
> kdump kernel before it starts booting. If you have very broken
> memory it is possible, but absurdly unlikely that the machine will
> even boot if you are having enough uncorrectable memory errors
> an hour to get past the sha256 checksum and then be corruppt.
>
That wouldn't be the likely scenario (passing a sha256 checksum with the
wrong data due to a random event will never happen for all the computers
on Earth before the Sun destroys the planet). However, in a
failing-memory scenario, the much more likely scenario is that kdump
starts up, verifies the signature, and *then* has corruption causing it
to write to the wrong disk or whatnot. This is inherent in any scheme
that allows writing to hard media after a failure (as opposed to, say,
dumping to the network.)
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-25 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-22 23:35 [RFC][PATCH] Add a sysctl option controlling kexec when MCE occurred Seiji Aguchi
2010-12-23 0:29 ` Greg KH
2010-12-23 7:43 ` Andi Kleen
2010-12-23 9:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-12-23 17:31 ` Seiji Aguchi
2010-12-23 19:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-12-25 14:56 ` Seiji Aguchi
2010-12-25 17:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-12-25 18:33 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-12-25 21:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-12-27 1:56 ` Hidetoshi Seto
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