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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: too big min_free_kbytes
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:16:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D42F9E3.2010605@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110128164624.GA23905@csn.ul.ie>

On 01/28/2011 11:46 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 05:28:31PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

>> In previous email you asked me how kswapd get stuck in D state and
>> never stops working, and that it should stop earlier. This sounds
>> impossible, kswapd behavior can't possibly change, simply there is
>> less memory freed by lowering that "gap".
>
> There might be less memory freed by lowering that gap but it still needs to
> exit balance_pgdat() and go to sleep. Otherwise it'll keep freeing zones up
> to the high watermark + gap and calling congestion_wait (hence the D state).

The gap works because kswapd has different thresholds for
different things:

1) get woken up if every zone on an allocator's zone list
    is below the low watermark

2) exit the loop if _every_ zone is at or above the
    high watermark

3) skip a zone in the freeing loop if the zone has more
    than high + gap free memory

Continuing the loop as long as one zone is below the low
watermark is what equalizes memory pressure between zones.

Skipping the freeing of pages in a zone that already has
excessive amounts of free memory helps avoid memory waste
and excessive swapping.  We simply equalize the balance
between zones a little more slowly.  What matters is that
the memory pressure gets equalized over time.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-28 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-24  3:56 too big min_free_kbytes Shaohua Li
2011-01-24 15:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-25 14:35   ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-26 14:17   ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-26 15:23     ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-26 15:42       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-26 16:36         ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-26 17:42           ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-27 13:40             ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-27 15:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-27 16:03                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-27 18:52                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-27 20:33                     ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-27 21:31                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-27 23:18                       ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-28 10:35                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-28 16:28                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 16:46                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-01-28 17:16                               ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2011-01-28 17:46                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 18:03                                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-28 18:24                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 19:34                                       ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-28 19:45                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 20:55                                           ` Rik van Riel
2011-01-29 19:45                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 17:34                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-28 17:10                             ` Rik van Riel
2011-02-03  2:58                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-03 13:15                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-03 18:59                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-03 14:36                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-02-03 19:11                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-12  1:28                       ` Simon Kirby
2011-02-14  2:25                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-02-22 14:25                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-22 14:42                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-22 14:50                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-22 14:54                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-22 16:04                         ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-22 16:40                           ` Rik van Riel
2011-02-23  5:29                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-02-23 14:45                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-24  8:08                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-02-24  9:52                             ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-24  9:57                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-24 14:27                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-24 14:04                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-25  0:51                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-02-25 12:13                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-12  9:48                 ` alex shi
2011-02-22 14:24                   ` Mel Gorman

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