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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: rientjes@google.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, caiqian@redhat.com, hughd@google.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, minchan.kim@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] oom: don't kill random process
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:35:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDB0B45.2080507@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1105231529340.17840@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

(2011/05/24 7:32), David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
>> CAI Qian reported oom-killer killed all system daemons in his
>> system at first if he ran fork bomb as root. The problem is,
>> current logic give them bonus of 3% of system ram. Example,
>> he has 16GB machine, then root processes have ~500MB oom
>> immune. It bring us crazy bad result. _all_ processes have
>> oom-score=1 and then, oom killer ignore process memory usage
>> and kill random process. This regression is caused by commit
>> a63d83f427 (oom: badness heuristic rewrite).
>>
>> This patch changes select_bad_process() slightly. If oom points == 1,
>> it's a sign that the system have only root privileged processes or
>> similar. Thus, select_bad_process() calculate oom badness without
>> root bonus and select eligible process.
>>
>
> You said earlier that you thought it was a good idea to do a proportional
> based bonus for root processes.  Do you have a specific objection to
> giving root processes a 1% bonus for every 10% of used memory instead?

Because it's completely another topic. You have to maek another patch.



>> Also, this patch move finding sacrifice child logic into
>> select_bad_process(). It's necessary to implement adequate
>> no root bonus recalculation. and it makes good side effect,
>> current logic doesn't behave as the doc.
>>
>
> This is unnecessary and just makes the oom killer egregiously long.  We
> are already diagnosing problems here at Google where the oom killer holds
> tasklist_lock on the readside for far too long, causing other cpus waiting
> for a write_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock) to encounter issues when irqs are
> disabled and it is spinning.  A second tasklist scan is simply a
> non-starter.
>
>   [ This is also one of the reasons why we needed to introduce
>     mm->oom_disable_count to prevent a second, expensive tasklist scan. ]

You misunderstand the code. Both select_bad_process() and oom_kill_process()
are under tasklist_lock(). IOW, no change lock holding time.


>> Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt says
>>
>>      oom_kill_allocating_task
>>
>>      If this is set to non-zero, the OOM killer simply kills the task that
>>      triggered the out-of-memory condition.  This avoids the expensive
>>      tasklist scan.
>>
>> IOW, oom_kill_allocating_task shouldn't search sacrifice child.
>> This patch also fixes this issue.
>>
>
> oom_kill_allocating_task was introduced for SGI to prevent the expensive
> tasklist scan, the task that is actually allocating the memory isn't
> actually interesting and is usually random.  This should be turned into a
> documentation fix rather than changing the implementation.

No benefit. I don't take it.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-24  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20  8:00 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] oom: improve dump_tasks() show items KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:16   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20  8:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] oom: kill younger process first KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  2:37   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 22:20   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: oom-killer don't use proportion of system-ram internally KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  3:59   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:14     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:32       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  4:02   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:44     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  3:11       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:28   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:48     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  8:32       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  7:08       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-27 19:12         ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  2:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-26  9:34   ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  9:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] oom: don't kill random process KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  4:31   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:53     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  8:46       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  8:49         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:04           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:09             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:20               ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:38                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:32   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:35     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-05-24  1:39       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:55         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:58           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  2:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-25 23:50               ` David Rientjes
2011-05-30  1:17                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:48                   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-31  4:54                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 5/5] oom: merge oom_kill_process() with oom_kill_task() KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  1:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:10   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:14     ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:49       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:32     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:52     ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:04       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:50         ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:56           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:59             ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  8:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 10:01                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-01  1:17                   ` CAI Qian
2011-06-01  3:32                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-06  3:07                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-06 14:44                       ` Minchan Kim

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