From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: rientjes@google.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, caiqian@redhat.com, hughd@google.com,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, minchan.kim@gmail.com,
oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] oom: don't kill random process
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:35:01 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDB0B45.2080507@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1105231529340.17840@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
(2011/05/24 7:32), David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 20 May 2011, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
>> CAI Qian reported oom-killer killed all system daemons in his
>> system at first if he ran fork bomb as root. The problem is,
>> current logic give them bonus of 3% of system ram. Example,
>> he has 16GB machine, then root processes have ~500MB oom
>> immune. It bring us crazy bad result. _all_ processes have
>> oom-score=1 and then, oom killer ignore process memory usage
>> and kill random process. This regression is caused by commit
>> a63d83f427 (oom: badness heuristic rewrite).
>>
>> This patch changes select_bad_process() slightly. If oom points == 1,
>> it's a sign that the system have only root privileged processes or
>> similar. Thus, select_bad_process() calculate oom badness without
>> root bonus and select eligible process.
>>
>
> You said earlier that you thought it was a good idea to do a proportional
> based bonus for root processes. Do you have a specific objection to
> giving root processes a 1% bonus for every 10% of used memory instead?
Because it's completely another topic. You have to maek another patch.
>> Also, this patch move finding sacrifice child logic into
>> select_bad_process(). It's necessary to implement adequate
>> no root bonus recalculation. and it makes good side effect,
>> current logic doesn't behave as the doc.
>>
>
> This is unnecessary and just makes the oom killer egregiously long. We
> are already diagnosing problems here at Google where the oom killer holds
> tasklist_lock on the readside for far too long, causing other cpus waiting
> for a write_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock) to encounter issues when irqs are
> disabled and it is spinning. A second tasklist scan is simply a
> non-starter.
>
> [ This is also one of the reasons why we needed to introduce
> mm->oom_disable_count to prevent a second, expensive tasklist scan. ]
You misunderstand the code. Both select_bad_process() and oom_kill_process()
are under tasklist_lock(). IOW, no change lock holding time.
>> Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt says
>>
>> oom_kill_allocating_task
>>
>> If this is set to non-zero, the OOM killer simply kills the task that
>> triggered the out-of-memory condition. This avoids the expensive
>> tasklist scan.
>>
>> IOW, oom_kill_allocating_task shouldn't search sacrifice child.
>> This patch also fixes this issue.
>>
>
> oom_kill_allocating_task was introduced for SGI to prevent the expensive
> tasklist scan, the task that is actually allocating the memory isn't
> actually interesting and is usually random. This should be turned into a
> documentation fix rather than changing the implementation.
No benefit. I don't take it.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-24 1:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-20 8:00 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20 8:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] oom: improve dump_tasks() show items KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20 8:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] oom: kill younger process first KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 2:37 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 22:20 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20 8:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: oom-killer don't use proportion of system-ram internally KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 3:59 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 1:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 1:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 4:02 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 1:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 3:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:28 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:48 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24 1:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 8:32 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26 7:08 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-27 19:12 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24 2:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-26 9:34 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26 9:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20 8:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] oom: don't kill random process KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 4:31 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 1:53 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 8:46 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 8:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 9:04 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 9:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 9:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24 9:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:32 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24 1:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-05-24 1:39 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24 1:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24 1:58 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24 2:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-25 23:50 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-30 1:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 4:48 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-31 4:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20 8:05 ` [PATCH 5/5] oom: merge oom_kill_process() with oom_kill_task() KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 1:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) CAI Qian
2011-05-31 4:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 4:14 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31 4:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 4:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 4:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 4:52 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31 7:04 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 7:50 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31 7:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 7:59 ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31 8:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 10:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-01 1:17 ` CAI Qian
2011-06-01 3:32 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-06 3:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-06 14:44 ` Minchan Kim
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