From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:07:25 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E01CCED.5050609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1106212325400.14693@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
ao? 2011a1'06ae??22ae?JPY 14:32, David Rientjes a??e??:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Cong Wang wrote:
>
>>> Either way, this patch isn't needed since it has no benefit over doing it
>>> through an init script.
>>
>> If you were right, CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS is not needed,
>> you can do it through an init script.
>>
>
> They are really two different things: config options like
> CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS and CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG_ON are shortcuts
> for command line options when you want the _default_ behavior to be
> specified. They could easily be done on the command line just as they can
> be done in the config. They typically have far reaching consequences
> depending on whether they are enabled or disabled and warrant the entry in
> the config file.
>
> This patch, however, is not making the heuristic any easier to work with;
> in fact, if the default were ever changed or the value is changed on your
> kernel, then certain kernels will have THP enabled by default and others
> will not. That's why I suggested an override command line option like
> transparent_hugepage=force to ignore any disabling heursitics either
> present or future.
Actually, if we move this out of kernel, to user-space, everything
you worried will be solved by just changing the user-space code.
Just add the following pseudo code into your init script,
if [ $total_memory -lt 512 ]
then
echo never > /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
fi
BTW, "=force" makes people confused with "=always", like "=never"
actually means "=disabled".
>
>> If you were right, the 512M limit is not needed neither, you have
>> transparent_hugepage=never boot parameter and do the check of
>> 512M later in an init script. (Actually, moving the 512M check to
>> user-space is really more sane to me.)
>>
>
> It's quite obvious that the default behavior intended by the author is
> that it is defaulted off for systems with less than 512M of memory.
> Obfuscating that probably isn't a very good idea, but I'm always in favor
> of command lines that allow users to override settings when they really do
> know better.
The better way to express this is to add one line in Kconfig help said
"Please set CONFIG_THP_NEVER=y when you have less than 512M memory",
rather than enforcing a decision in code.
From either aspect, I don't think the current 512M check code in kernel
is a good thing.
Thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 11:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-21 8:10 [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=0 Amerigo Wang
2011-06-21 8:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable Amerigo Wang
2011-06-21 14:44 ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-21 20:17 ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-22 1:23 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 3:06 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 3:29 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 5:40 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 6:32 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 11:07 ` Cong Wang [this message]
2011-06-22 14:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 6:51 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 8:10 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: improve THP printk messages Amerigo Wang
2011-06-22 1:23 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 3:04 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 8:10 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: introduce no_ksm to disable totally KSM Amerigo Wang
2011-06-21 13:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 3:13 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 11:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=0 Michal Hocko
2011-06-21 11:58 ` Michal Hocko
2011-06-21 13:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 3:11 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 1:16 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 3:08 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 3:24 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 5:45 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 6:23 ` David Rientjes
2011-06-22 11:08 ` Cong Wang
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