From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Izik Eidus <izik.eidus@ravellosystems.com>
Cc: nai.xia@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmu_notifier, kvm: Introduce dirty bit tracking in spte and mmu notifier to help KSM dirty bit tracking
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:28:08 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E01D1C8.2050707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E01D0E3.9080508@redhat.com>
On 06/22/2011 02:24 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 02:19 PM, Izik Eidus wrote:
>> On 6/22/2011 2:10 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> On 06/22/2011 02:05 PM, Izik Eidus wrote:
>>>>>> + spte = rmap_next(kvm, rmapp, NULL);
>>>>>> + while (spte) {
>>>>>> + int _dirty;
>>>>>> + u64 _spte = *spte;
>>>>>> + BUG_ON(!(_spte& PT_PRESENT_MASK));
>>>>>> + _dirty = _spte& PT_DIRTY_MASK;
>>>>>> + if (_dirty) {
>>>>>> + dirty = 1;
>>>>>> + clear_bit(PT_DIRTY_SHIFT, (unsigned long *)spte);
>>>>>> + }
>>>>>
>>>>> Racy. Also, needs a tlb flush eventually.
>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> Hi, one of the issues is that the whole point of this patch is not
>>>> do tlb flush eventually,
>>>> But I see your point, because other users will not expect such
>>>> behavior, so maybe there is need into a parameter
>>>> flush_tlb=?, or add another mmu notifier call?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you don't flush the tlb, a subsequent write will not see that
>>> spte.d is clear and the write will happen. So you'll see the page
>>> as clean even though it's dirty. That's not acceptable.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but this is exactly what we want from this use case:
>> Right now ksm calculate the page hash to see if it was changed, the
>> idea behind this patch is to use the dirty bit instead,
>> however the guest might not really like the fact that we will flush
>> its tlb over and over again, specially in periodically scan like ksm
>> does.
>
> I see.
Actually, this is dangerous. If we use the dirty bit for other things,
we will get data corruption.
For example we might want to map clean host pages as writeable-clean in
the spte on a read fault so that we don't get a page fault when they get
eventually written.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-21 12:55 [PATCH 0/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia
2011-06-21 13:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 " Nai Xia
2011-06-21 21:42 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 0:02 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:42 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-21 13:32 ` [PATCH] mmu_notifier, kvm: Introduce dirty bit tracking in spte and mmu notifier to help KSM dirty bit tracking Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:21 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:43 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 6:15 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 6:38 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 15:46 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 10:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:05 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 11:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:19 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 11:24 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:28 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-06-22 11:31 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-22 11:33 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 11:39 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 15:39 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-22 16:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 23:37 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 0:31 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-23 0:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 1:36 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-23 0:00 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-23 0:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:13 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 1:30 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:28 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-23 0:52 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 11:24 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 15:19 ` Izik Eidus
2011-06-22 23:19 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-23 0:14 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 23:42 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-21 13:36 ` [PATCH 2/2 V2] ksm: take dirty bit as reference to avoid volatile pages scanning Nai Xia
2011-06-21 22:38 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 0:04 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:35 ` Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:47 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 10:55 ` Nai Xia
2011-06-22 0:46 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Chris Wright
2011-06-22 4:15 ` Nai Xia
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