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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"devel@openvz.org" <devel@openvz.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] slab_id: Generic slab ID infrastructure
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:31:51 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E8EB8F7.4090208@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E8EB802.8020201@parallels.com>

On 10/07/2011 12:27 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
> 
> On 10/06/2011 08:23 PM, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> The idea of how to generate and ID for an arbitrary slab object is simple:
>>
>> - The ID is 128 bits
>> - The upper 64 bits are slab ID
>> - The lower 64 bits are object index withing a slab (yes, it's too many,
>>    but is done for simplicity - not to deal with 96-bit numbers)
>> - The slab ID is the 48-bit per-cpu monotonic counter mixed with 16-bit
>>    cpuid. Even if being incremented 1M times per second the first part
>>    will stay uniqe for 200+ years. The cpuid is required to make values
>>    picked on two cpus differ.
> 
> So why can't we just use tighter numbers, and leave some reserved fields 
> instead ?

Well, we have to save the ID on the slab and for 64-bit kernel we can already
use the 64-bit mapping field. For 32-bit kernels 32-bit value is not enough as
it can overlap in several days (like 32bit jiffies do) which is not enough.

> Having ids in the objects of the slab may prove useful in the future for
> other uses as well.
> 
> For instance, concurrent to that, we're trying to figure out ways to 
> have per-cgroup pages/objects accounted in the memory controller.
> 
> The most up2date proposals create an entire kmem cache for each cgroup,
> thus trivially guaranteeing uniqueness. It however, leads to fragmentation.
> Having the objects to be IDed and being cgroup part of this id, could
> help us achieve the same goal with less fragmentation.

That's good point! I can extend the patches to provide the space reservation
infrastructure for slabs.

Thanks,
Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-07  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-06 16:22 [PATCH 0/5] Slab objects identifiers Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-06 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/5] slab: Tossing bits around Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-06 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/5] slab_id: Generic slab ID infrastructure Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-07  8:27   ` Glauber Costa
2011-10-07  8:31     ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2011-10-06 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/5] slab_id: Slab support for IDs Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-06 16:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] slab_id: Slub " Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-06 16:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] slab_id: Show the task's mm ID in proc Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-07 17:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] Slab objects identifiers Christoph Lameter
2011-10-10 10:20   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-10 15:24     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-10 15:46       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-13  7:12     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-13 11:25       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-13 12:12         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-10-13 12:23           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-10-10 18:59 ` Matt Helsley
2011-10-11  7:50   ` Pavel Emelyanov

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