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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: take pagevecs off reclaim stack
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:24:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EFD04B2.7050407@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1112291510390.4888@eggly.anvils>

(12/29/11 6:27 PM), Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:39:36 -0800 (PST)
>> Hugh Dickins<hughd@google.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Replace pagevecs in putback_lru_pages() and move_active_pages_to_lru()
>>> by lists of pages_to_free
>>
>> One effect of the pagevec handling was to limit lru_lock hold times and
>> interrupt-disabled times.
>>
>> This patch removes that upper bound and has the potential to cause
>> various latency problems when processing large numbers of pages.
>>
>> The affected functions have rather a lot of callers.  I don't think
>> that auditing all these callers and convincing ourselves that none of
>> them pass in 10,000 pages is sufficient, because that doesn't prevent us
>> from introducing such latency problems as the MM code evolves.
>
> That's an interesting slant on it, that hadn't crossed my mind;
> but it looks like intervening changes have answered that concern.
>
> putback_lru_pages() has one caller, shrink_inactive_list();
> move_active_pages_to_lru() has one caller, shrink_active_list().
> Following those back, they're in all cases capped to SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX
> pages per call.  That's 32 pages, not so very much more than the 14
> page limit the pagevecs were imposing.
>
> And both shrink_inactive_list() and shrink_active_list() gather these
> pages with isolate_lru_pages(), which does not drop lock or enable
> interrupts at all - probably why the SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX cap got imposed.

When lumpy reclaim occur, isolate_lru_pages() gather much pages than
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX. However, at that time, I think this patch behave
better than old. If we release and retake zone lock per 14 pages,
other tasks can easily steal a part of lumpy reclaimed pages. and then
long latency wrongness will be happen when system is under large page
memory allocation pressure. That's the reason why I posted very similar 
patch a long time ago.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-30  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-29  4:32 [PATCH 0/3] mm: three minor vmscan improvements Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29  4:35 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: test PageSwapBacked in lumpy reclaim Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29  5:06   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-04  1:23   ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-05  6:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-29  4:36 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: cond_resched in scan_mapping_unevictable_pages Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29  5:14   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-29  5:48     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29 22:46       ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29  4:39 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: take pagevecs off reclaim stack Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29  5:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-29 11:18   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-12-29 22:20     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-29 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-29 23:27     ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-30  0:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-12-30  1:55         ` Hugh Dickins
2011-12-30  3:59           ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-30 15:51             ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-01  7:18             ` Hugh Dickins
2012-01-03 23:12               ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-03 23:17                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-03 23:29                   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-04  0:03                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-04  3:22                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-01-04 20:20                   ` Andrew Morton

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