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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 8/8] mm: add vmstat counters for tracking PCP drains
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:13:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F037D84.5070502@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOtvUMc259XZ5BdOqys3Kbv_u=Qa0matnuFyGrJhMPLtRKKkUA@mail.gmail.com>

(1/3/12 2:00 PM), Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> 2012/1/3 KOSAKI Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>:
>> (1/2/12 5:24 AM), Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
>>> This patch introduces two new vmstat counters: pcp_global_drain
>>> that counts the number of times a per-cpu pages global drain was
>>> requested and pcp_global_ipi_saved that counts the number of times
>>> the number of CPUs with per-cpu pages in any zone were less then
>>> 1/2 of the number of online CPUs.
>>>
>>> The patch purpose is to show the usefulness of only sending an IPI
>>> asking to drain per-cpu pages to CPUs that actually have them
>>> instead of a blind global IPI. It is probably not useful by itself.
> ...
>
>               }
>>>        on_each_cpu_mask(cpus_with_pcps, drain_local_pages, NULL, 1);
>>> +
>>> +     count_vm_event(PCP_GLOBAL_DRAIN);
>>> +     if (cpumask_weight(cpus_with_pcps)<    (cpumask_weight(cpu_online_mask) / 2))
>>> +             count_vm_event(PCP_GLOBAL_IPI_SAVED);
>>
>> NAK.
>>
>> PCP_GLOBAL_IPI_SAVED is only useful at development phase. I can't
>> imagine normal admins use it.
>
> As the description explains, the purpose of the patch is to show why i
> claim the previous
> patch is useful. I did not meant it to be applied to mainline. My
> apologies for not
> stating this more clearly. I agree it is not useful for an admin,
> although perhaps PCP_GLOBAL_DRAIN
> alone might - I am not sure?

Until we found a good usecase, we shouldn't append any stat. It is not
zero overhead even though nobody uses.

That's why I almost always disagree adding statistics from point of 
developers view.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-03 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1325499859-2262-1-git-send-email-gilad@benyossef.com>
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] smp: Introduce a generic on_each_cpu_mask function Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03  7:51   ` Michal Nazarewicz
2012-01-03  8:12     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03  8:57       ` Michal Nazarewicz
2012-01-03 22:26   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-05 13:17     ` Michal Nazarewicz
2012-01-08 16:04     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] arm: Move arm over to generic on_each_cpu_mask Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] tile: Move tile to use " Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] smp: Add func to IPI cpus based on parameter func Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-08 16:09     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] slub: Only IPI CPUs that have per cpu obj to flush Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] fs: only send IPI to invalidate LRU BH when needed Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] mm: Only IPI CPUs to drain local pages if they exist Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03 17:45   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-03 18:58     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03 22:02       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-05 14:20     ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-05 14:40       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-05 15:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-05 16:17         ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-05 16:35           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-05 18:35             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-05 22:21               ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-06  6:06                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-06 10:46                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-06 13:28                 ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 14:09                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-05 22:06           ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-05 22:31             ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-05 23:19               ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-09 17:25                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-07 16:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-07 17:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-01-05 15:54   ` Mel Gorman
2012-01-08 16:01     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-02 10:24 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] mm: add vmstat counters for tracking PCP drains Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03 17:47   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-01-03 19:00     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-01-03 22:13       ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2012-01-03 22:37       ` Andrew Morton

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