From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
devel@openvz.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] kmem controller for memcg: stripped down version
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:39:54 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEAC6DA.1010806@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1206261804160.11287@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 06/27/2012 05:08 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>> mm, maybe. Kernel developers tend to look at code from the point of
>> view "does it work as designed", "is it clean", "is it efficient", "do
>> I understand it", etc. We often forget to step back and really
>> consider whether or not it should be merged at all.
>>
>
> It's appropriate for true memory isolation so that applications cannot
> cause an excess of slab to be consumed. This allows other applications to
> have higher reservations without the risk of incurring a global oom
> condition as the result of the usage of other memcgs.
Just a note for Andrew, we we're in the same page: The slab cache
limitation is not included in *this* particular series. The goal was
always to have other kernel resources limited as well, and the general
argument from David holds: we want a set of applications to run truly
independently from others, without creating memory pressure on the
global system.
The way history develop in this series, I started from the slab cache,
and a page-level tracking appeared on that series. I then figured it
would be better to start tracking something that is totally page-based,
such as the stack - that already accounts for 70 % of the
infrastructure, and then merge the slab code later. In this sense, it
was just a strategy inversion. But both are, and were, in the goals.
> I'm not sure whether it would ever be appropriate to limit the amount of
> slab for an individual slab cache, however, instead of limiting the sum of
> all slab for a set of processes. With cache merging in slub this would
> seem to be difficult to do correctly.
Yes, I do agree.
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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-25 14:15 [PATCH 00/11] kmem controller for memcg: stripped down version Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 01/11] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 17:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 22:33 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 4:01 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 02/11] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 23:33 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-06-26 8:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 16:16 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-06-26 4:09 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 7:12 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 8:54 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 9:08 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 9:17 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 9:23 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 10:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 19:48 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27 20:47 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 03/11] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 4:11 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 8:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 9:01 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 04/11] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 4:22 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 7:09 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 05/11] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 4:25 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 7:08 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 9:03 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 06/11] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:06 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 14:40 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 15:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 18:01 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 18:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-26 18:14 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 19:20 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 15:29 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 9:12 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 9:17 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 4:01 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27 9:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 19:46 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 07/11] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:07 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:27 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 08/11] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 5:51 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:29 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 22:49 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 5:23 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 5:24 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 5:31 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 7:23 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 10/11] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 18:34 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 22:25 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 5:59 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-26 7:21 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 14:15 ` [PATCH 11/11] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-06-25 16:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-25 18:38 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-25 20:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26 12:48 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 13:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26 13:37 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 13:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-26 4:57 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 5:35 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-06-26 7:23 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 8:45 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-26 8:44 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 9:05 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-25 23:27 ` [PATCH 00/11] kmem controller for memcg: stripped down version Andrew Morton
2012-06-26 7:17 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-26 21:55 ` Andrew Morton
2012-06-27 1:08 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-27 8:39 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-06-27 9:29 ` Fork bomb limitation in memcg WAS: " Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 12:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-27 12:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-27 12:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-06-27 19:38 ` David Rientjes
2012-06-28 9:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-06-28 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2012-07-03 11:38 ` Glauber Costa
2012-07-12 15:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-07 13:59 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-08 14:15 ` Glauber Costa
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