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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] mm: remap unused subpages to shared zeropage when splitting isolated thp
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 16:14:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cf41cd5-e93a-412b-b209-4180bd2d4015@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d2c3e3e-439d-4695-b7c9-21fa52f48ced@redhat.com>



On 2025/9/19 15:55, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> I think where possible we really only want to identify problematic
>>> (tagged) pages and skip them. And we should either look into fixing KSM
>>> as well or finding out why KSM is not affected.
>>
>> Yeah. Seems like we could introduce a new helper,
>> folio_test_mte_tagged(struct
>> folio *folio). By default, it would return false, and architectures like
>> arm64
>> can override it.
> 
> If we add a new helper it should instead express the semantics that we 
> cannot deduplicate.

Agreed.

> 
> For THP, I recall that only some pages might be tagged. So likely we 
> want to check per page.

Yes, a per-page check would be simpler.

> 
>>
>> Looking at the code, the PG_mte_tagged flag is not set for regular THP.
> 
> I think it's supported for THP per page. Only for hugetlb we tag the 
> whole thing through the head page instead of individual pages.

Right. That's exactly what I meant.

> 
>> The MTE
>> status actually comes from the VM_MTE flag in the VMA that maps it.
>>
> 
> During the rmap walk we could check the VMA flag, but there would be no 
> way to just stop the THP shrinker scanning this page early.
> 
>> static inline bool folio_test_hugetlb_mte_tagged(struct folio *folio)
>> {
>>     bool ret = test_bit(PG_mte_tagged, &folio->flags.f);
>>
>>     VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(!folio_test_hugetlb(folio));
>>
>>     /*
>>      * If the folio is tagged, ensure ordering with a likely subsequent
>>      * read of the tags.
>>      */
>>     if (ret)
>>         smp_rmb();
>>     return ret;
>> }
>>
>> static inline bool page_mte_tagged(struct page *page)
>> {
>>     bool ret = test_bit(PG_mte_tagged, &page->flags.f);
>>
>>     VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(folio_test_hugetlb(page_folio(page)));
>>
>>     /*
>>      * If the page is tagged, ensure ordering with a likely subsequent
>>      * read of the tags.
>>      */
>>     if (ret)
>>         smp_rmb();
>>     return ret;
>> }
>>
>> contpte_set_ptes()
>>     __set_ptes()
>>         __set_ptes_anysz()
>>             __sync_cache_and_tags()
>>                 mte_sync_tags()
>>                     set_page_mte_tagged()
>>
>> Then, having the THP shrinker skip any folios that are identified as
>> MTE-tagged.
> 
> Likely we should just do something like (maybe we want better naming)
> 
> #ifndef page_is_mergable
> #define page_is_mergable(page) (true)
> #endif


Maybe something like page_is_optimizable()? Just a thought ;p

> 
> And for arm64 have it be
> 
> #define page_is_mergable(page) (!page_mte_tagged(page))
> 
> 
> And then do
> 
> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> index 1f0813b956436..1cac9093918d6 100644
> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> @@ -4251,7 +4251,8 @@ static bool thp_underused(struct folio *folio)
> 
>          for (i = 0; i < folio_nr_pages(folio); i++) {
>                  kaddr = kmap_local_folio(folio, i * PAGE_SIZE);
> -               if (!memchr_inv(kaddr, 0, PAGE_SIZE)) {
> +               if (page_is_mergable(folio_page(folio, i)) &&
> +                   !memchr_inv(kaddr, 0, PAGE_SIZE)) {
>                          num_zero_pages++;
>                          if (num_zero_pages > khugepaged_max_ptes_none) {
>                                  kunmap_local(kaddr);
> diff --git a/mm/migrate.c b/mm/migrate.c
> index 946253c398072..476a9a9091bd3 100644
> --- a/mm/migrate.c
> +++ b/mm/migrate.c
> @@ -306,6 +306,8 @@ static bool try_to_map_unused_to_zeropage(struct 
> page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw,
> 
>          if (PageCompound(page))
>                  return false;
> +       if (!page_is_mergable(page))
> +               return false;
>          VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageAnon(page), page);
>          VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageLocked(page), page);
>          VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(pte_present(ptep_get(pvmw->pte)), page);

Looks good to me!

> 
> 
> For KSM, similarly just bail out early. But still wondering if this is 
> already checked
> somehow for KSM.

+1 I'm looking for a machine to test it on.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-19  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-30 10:03 [PATCH v5 0/6] mm: split underused THPs Usama Arif
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] mm: free zapped tail pages when splitting isolated thp Usama Arif
2024-09-05  8:46   ` Hugh Dickins
2024-09-05 10:21     ` Usama Arif
2024-09-05 18:05       ` Hugh Dickins
2024-09-05 19:24         ` Usama Arif
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] mm: remap unused subpages to shared zeropage " Usama Arif
2024-10-23 16:21   ` Zi Yan
2024-10-23 16:50     ` Usama Arif
2024-10-23 16:55       ` Zi Yan
2024-10-23 16:56       ` Yu Zhao
2025-09-18  8:53   ` Qun-wei Lin (林群崴)
2025-09-18  8:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-18 11:42       ` Usama Arif
2025-09-18 11:57         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-18 12:22       ` Lance Yang
2025-09-18 12:25         ` Lance Yang
2025-09-18 12:35         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-19  5:16           ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19  7:55             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-19  8:14               ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-09-19 10:53                 ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19 12:19                   ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19 12:44                     ` Lance Yang
2025-09-19 13:09                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-19 13:24                       ` Lance Yang
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] mm: selftest to verify zero-filled pages are mapped to zeropage Usama Arif
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] mm: Introduce a pageflag for partially mapped folios Usama Arif
2024-12-11 15:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-12 10:30     ` Usama Arif
2024-12-12 10:49       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] mm: split underused THPs Usama Arif
2024-08-30 10:03 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] mm: add sysfs entry to disable splitting " Usama Arif

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