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From: "Anton Salikhmetov" <salikhmetov@gmail.com>
To: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, jakob@unthought.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu,
	riel@redhat.com, ksm@42.dk, staubach@redhat.com,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	protasnb@gmail.com, miklos@szeredi.hu, r.e.wolff@bitwizard.nl,
	hidave.darkstar@gmail.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v8 4/4] The design document for memory-mapped file times update
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:40:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4df4ef0c0801250840u6a1c2822p8428cf6490c46b22@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080125082710.09f321c1.randy.dunlap@oracle.com>

2008/1/25, Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:21:20 +0300 Anton Salikhmetov wrote:
>
> > Add a document, which describes how the POSIX requirements on updating
> > memory-mapped file times are addressed in Linux.
>
> Hi Anton,
>
> Just a few small comments below...
>
> > Signed-off-by: Anton Salikhmetov <salikhmetov@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/vm/00-INDEX  |    2 +
> >  Documentation/vm/msync.txt |  117 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 119 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/vm/00-INDEX b/Documentation/vm/00-INDEX
> > index 2131b00..2726c8d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/vm/00-INDEX
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/00-INDEX
> > @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ hugetlbpage.txt
> >       - a brief summary of hugetlbpage support in the Linux kernel.
> >  locking
> >       - info on how locking and synchronization is done in the Linux vm code.
> > +msync.txt
> > +     - the design document for memory-mapped file times update
> >  numa
> >       - information about NUMA specific code in the Linux vm.
> >  numa_memory_policy.txt
> > diff --git a/Documentation/vm/msync.txt b/Documentation/vm/msync.txt
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..571a766
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/msync.txt
> > @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
> > +
> > +     The msync() system call and memory-mapped file times
> > +
> > +     Copyright (C) 2008 Anton Salikhmetov
> > +
> > +The POSIX standard requires that any write reference to memory-mapped file
> > +data should result in updating the ctime and mtime for that file. Moreover,
> > +the standard mandates that updated file times should become visible to the
> > +world no later than at the next call to msync().
> > +
> > +Failure to meet this requirement creates difficulties for certain classes
> > +of important applications. For instance, database backup systems fail to
> > +pick up the files modified via the mmap() interface. Also, this is a
> > +security hole, which allows forging file data in such a manner that proving
> > +the fact that file data was modified is not possible.
> > +
> > +Briefly put, this requirement can be stated as follows:
> > +
> > +     once the file data has changed, the operating system
> > +     should acknowledge this fact by updating file metadata.
> > +
> > +This document describes how this POSIX requirement is addressed in Linux.
> > +
> > +1. Requirements
> > +
> > +1.1) the POSIX standard requires updating ctime and mtime not later
> > +than at the call to msync() with MS_SYNC or MS_ASYNC flags;
> > +
> > +1.2) in existing POSIX implementations, ctime and mtime
> > +get updated not later than at the call to fsync();
> > +
> > +1.3) in existing POSIX implementation, ctime and mtime
> > +get updated not later than at the call to sync(), the "auto-update" feature;
> > +
> > +1.4) the customers require and the common sense suggests that
> > +ctime and mtime should be updated not later than at the call to munmap()
> > +or exit(), the latter function implying an implicit call to munmap();
> > +
> > +1.5) the (1.1) item should be satisfied if the file is a block device
> > +special file;
> > +
> > +1.6) the (1.1) item should be satisfied for files residing on
> > +memory-backed filesystems such as tmpfs, too.
> > +
> > +The following operating systems were used as the reference platforms
> > +and are referred to as the "existing implementations" above:
> > +HP-UX B.11.31 and FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE.
> > +
> > +2. Lazy update
> > +
> > +Many attempts before the current version implemented the "lazy update" approach
> > +to satisfying the requirements given above. Within the latter approach, ctime
> > +and mtime get updated at last moment allowable.
> > +
> > +Since we don't update the file times immediately, some Flag has to be
> > +used. When up, this Flag means that the file data was modified and
> > +the file times need to be updated as soon as possible.
>
> I would s/up/set/ above and below.
>
> > +Any existing "dirty" flag which, when up, mean that a page has been written to,
>
> s/mean/means/
>
> > +is not suitable for this purpose. Indeed, msync() called with MS_ASYNC
> > +would have to reset this "dirty" flag after updating ctime and mtime.
> > +The sys_msync() function itself is basically a no-op in the MS_ASYNC case.
> > +Thereby, the synchronization routines relying upon this "dirty" flag
> > +would lose data. Therefore, a new Flag has to be introduced.
> > +
> > +The (1.5) item coupled with (1.3) requirement leads to hard work with
> > +the block device inodes. Specifically, during writeback it is impossible to
> > +tell which block device file was originally mapped. Therefore, we need to
> > +traverse the list of "active" devices associated with the block device inode.
> > +This would lead to updating file times for block device files, which were not
> > +taking part in the data transfer.
> > +
> > +Also all versions prior to version 6 failed to correctly process ctime and
> > +mtime for files on the memory-backed filesystems such as tmpfs. So the (1.6)
> > +requirement was not satisfied.
> > +
> > +If a write reference has occurred between two consecutive calls to msync()
> > +with MS_ASYNC, the second call to the latter function should take into
> > +account the last write reference. The last write reference can not be caught
>
> s/can not/cannot/
>
> > +if no pagefault occurs. Hence a pagefault needs to be forced. This can be done
> > +using two different approaches. The first one is to synchronize data even when
> > +msync() was called with MS_ASYNC. This is not acceptable because the current
> > +design of the sys_msync() routine forbids starting I/O for the MS_ASYNC case.
> > +The second approach is to write protect the page for triggering a pagefault
>
> s/write protect/write-protect/
>
> > +at the next write reference. Note that the dirty flag for the page should not
> > +be cleared thereby.
> > +
> > +In the "lazy update" approach, the requirements (1.1), (1.2), (1.3), and (1.4)
> > +taken together result in adding code at least to the following kernel routines:
> > +sys_msync(), do_fsync(), some routine in the unmap() call path, some routine
> > +in the sync() call path.
> > +
> > +Finally, a file_update_time()-like function would have to be created for
> > +processing the inode objects, not file objects. This is due to the fact that
> > +during the sync() operation, the file object may not exist any more, only
> > +the inode is known.
> > +
> > +To sum up: this "lazy" approach leads to massive changes, incurs overhead in
> > +the block device case, and requires complicated design decisions.
> > +
> > +3. Immediate update
> > +
> > +OK, still reading? There's a better way.
> > +
> > +In a fashion analogous to what happens at write(2), react to the fact
> > +that the page gets dirtied by updating the file times immediately.
> > +Thereby any page writeback happens when the write reference has already
> > +been accounted for from the view point of file times.
>
> Probably s/view point/viewpoint/.
>
> > +
> > +The only problem which remains is to force refreshing file times at the write
> > +reference following a call to msync() with MS_ASYNC. As mentioned above, all
> > +that is needed here is to force a pagefault.
> > +
> > +The vma_wrprotect() routine introduced in this patch series is called
> > +from sys_msync() in the MS_ASYNC case. The former routine is essentially
> > +a version of existing page_mkclean_one() function from mm/rmap.c. Unlike
> > +the latter function, the vma_wrprotect() does not touch the dirty bit.
> > --
>
> Thanks for the design document.

Thank you for your feedback. I'll take your suggestions into account.

> ---
> ~Randy
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2008-01-25 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-22 23:21 [PATCH -v8 0/4] Fixing the issue with memory-mapped file times Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-22 23:21 ` [PATCH -v8 1/4] Massive code cleanup of sys_msync() Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-22 23:21 ` [PATCH -v8 2/4] Update ctime and mtime for memory-mapped files Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23 18:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 23:14     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-22 23:21 ` [PATCH -v8 3/4] Enable the MS_ASYNC functionality in sys_msync() Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23  8:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-23  8:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-23  9:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23  9:51         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 13:09           ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23 12:53     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23  9:41   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 17:05   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 17:26     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23 17:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-01-23 19:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 19:55         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 21:00           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 21:16             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 21:36               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-23 22:29                 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-01-23 22:41                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-24  0:03                     ` Hugh Dickins
2008-01-24  0:05                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-24  0:11                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-24  1:36     ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-24 18:56       ` Matt Mackall
2008-01-22 23:21 ` [PATCH -v8 4/4] The design document for memory-mapped file times update Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23  9:26   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 10:37     ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23 10:53       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 11:16         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-23 12:25           ` Anton Salikhmetov
2008-01-23 13:55             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-01-25 16:27   ` Randy Dunlap
2008-01-25 16:40     ` Anton Salikhmetov [this message]

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