From: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
To: Ric Mason <ric.masonn@gmail.com>
Cc: minchan@kernel.org, sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Nitin Gupta <nitingupta910@gmail.com>,
Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>,
Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: RE: zsmalloc limitations and related topics
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 10:29:32 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e603875-823e-4bc9-afc5-ae85ce4ca0ef@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51300702.1050006@gmail.com>
> From: Ric Mason [mailto:ric.masonn@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: zsmalloc limitations and related topics
>
> On 02/28/2013 07:24 AM, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> > Hi all --
> >
> > I've been doing some experimentation on zsmalloc in preparation
> > for my topic proposed for LSFMM13 and have run across some
> > perplexing limitations. Those familiar with the intimate details
> > of zsmalloc might be well aware of these limitations, but they
> > aren't documented or immediately obvious, so I thought it would
> > be worthwhile to air them publicly. I've also included some
> > measurements from the experimentation and some related thoughts.
> >
> > (Some of the terms here are unusual and may be used inconsistently
> > by different developers so a glossary of definitions of the terms
> > used here is appended.)
> >
> > ZSMALLOC LIMITATIONS
> >
> > Zsmalloc is used for two zprojects: zram and the out-of-tree
> > zswap. Zsmalloc can achieve high density when "full". But:
> >
> > 1) Zsmalloc has a worst-case density of 0.25 (one zpage per
> > four pageframes).
> > 2) When not full and especially when nearly-empty _after_
> > being full, density may fall below 1.0 as a result of
> > fragmentation.
>
> What's the meaning of nearly-empty _after_ being full?
Step 1: Add a few (N) pages to zsmalloc. It is "nearly empty".
Step 2: Now add many more pages to zsmalloc until allocation
limits are reached. It is "full".
Step 3: Now remove many pages from zsmalloc until there are
N pages remaining. It is now "nearly empty after
being full".
Fragmentation characteristics are different comparing
after Step 1 and after Step 3 even though, in both cases,
zsmalloc contains N pages.
> > 3) Zsmalloc has a density of exactly 1.0 for any number of
> > zpages with zsize >= 0.8.
> > 4) Zsmalloc contains several compile-time parameters;
> > the best value of these parameters may be very workload
> > dependent.
> >
> > If density == 1.0, that means we are paying the overhead of
> > compression+decompression for no space advantage. If
> > density < 1.0, that means using zsmalloc is detrimental,
> > resulting in worse memory pressure than if it were not used.
> >
> > WORKLOAD ANALYSIS
> >
> > These limitations emphasize that the workload used to evaluate
> > zsmalloc is very important. Benchmarks that measure data
>
> Could you share your benchmark? In order that other guys can take
> advantage of it.
As Seth does, I just used "make" of a kernel. I run it on
a full graphical installation of EL6. In order to ensure there
is memory pressure, I limit physical memory to 1GB, and use
"make -j20".
> > throughput or CPU utilization are of questionable value because
> > it is the _content_ of the data that is particularly relevant
> > for compression. Even more precisely, it is the "entropy"
> > of the data that is relevant, because the amount of
> > compressibility in the data is related to the entropy:
> > I.e. an entirely random pagefull of bits will compress poorly
> > and a highly-regular pagefull of bits will compress well.
> > Since the zprojects manage a large number of zpages, both
> > the mean and distribution of zsize of the workload should
> > be "representative".
> >
> > The workload most widely used to publish results for
> > the various zprojects is a kernel-compile using "make -jN"
> > where N is artificially increased to impose memory pressure.
> > By adding some debug code to zswap, I was able to analyze
> > this workload and found the following:
> >
> > 1) The average page compressed by almost a factor of six
> > (mean zsize == 694, stddev == 474)
>
> stddev is what?
Standard deviation. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-04 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-27 23:24 zsmalloc limitations and related topics Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-28 22:00 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-01 1:40 ` Ric Mason
2013-03-04 18:29 ` Dan Magenheimer [this message]
2013-03-13 15:14 ` Robert Jennings
2013-03-13 15:33 ` Seth Jennings
2013-03-13 15:56 ` Seth Jennings
2013-03-13 20:02 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-13 22:59 ` Seth Jennings
2013-03-14 12:02 ` Bob
2013-03-14 13:20 ` Robert Jennings
2013-03-14 18:54 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-15 16:14 ` Seth Jennings
2013-03-15 16:54 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-15 16:18 ` Seth Jennings
2013-03-14 17:39 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-14 19:16 ` Dan Magenheimer
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