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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Jane Chu <jane.chu@oracle.com>,
	Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Subject: Re: Direct I/O performance problems with 1GB pages
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:20:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <503c29c8-bcc7-4a6c-ab2e-ebf238a9a1db@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3710cc4-cbbf-4f1e-93a0-9eb6697df2d3@redhat.com>

On 27.01.25 17:09, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>
>>> If the workload doing a lot of single-page try_grab_folio_fast(), could it
>>> do so on a larger area (multiple pages at once -> single refcount update)?
>>
>> Not really.  This is memory that's being used as the buffer cache, so
>> every thread in your database is hammering on it and pulling in exactly
>> the data that it needs for the SQL query that it's processing.
> 
> Ouch.
> 
>>
>>> Maybe there is a link to the report you could share, thanks.
>>
>> Andres shared some gists, but I don't want to send those to a
>> mailing list without permission.  Here's the kernel part of the
>> perf report:
>>
>>       14.04%  postgres         [kernel.kallsyms]          [k] try_grab_folio_fast
>>               |
>>                --14.04%--try_grab_folio_fast
>>                          gup_fast_fallback
>>                          |
>>                           --13.85%--iov_iter_extract_pages
>>                                     bio_iov_iter_get_pages
>>                                     iomap_dio_bio_iter
>>                                     __iomap_dio_rw
>>                                     iomap_dio_rw
>>                                     xfs_file_dio_read
>>                                     xfs_file_read_iter
>>                                     __io_read
>>                                     io_read
>>                                     io_issue_sqe
>>                                     io_submit_sqes
>>                                     __do_sys_io_uring_enter
>>                                     do_syscall_64

BTW, two things that come to mind:


(1) We always fallback to GUP-fast, I wonder why. GUP-fast would go via 
try_grab_folio_fast().

(2) During GUP slow, we must take the PT lock of the PUD table. So the 
folio refcount/pincount/whatever is actually sync'ed by the ... PT lock 
here?

See assert_spin_locked(pud_lockptr(mm, pudp)); in follow_huge_pud().

Note that that PUD table lock is likely a per-MM lock ... and yes, it 
indeed is. We don't have split PUD locks.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-27 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-26  0:46 Direct I/O performance problems with 1GB pages Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-27 14:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 16:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-27 16:09     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 16:20       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-01-27 16:56         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-01-27 16:59           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 18:21       ` Andres Freund
2025-01-27 18:54         ` Jens Axboe
2025-01-27 19:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:32           ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-01-27 16:24     ` Keith Busch
2025-01-27 17:25   ` Andres Freund
2025-01-27 19:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 19:36       ` Andres Freund
2025-01-28  5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-28  9:47   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-29  6:03     ` Christoph Hellwig

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