From: Don Morris <don.morris@hp.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
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Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
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Alex@linux.intel.com, Sh@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:44:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5072D8CC.6020705@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zk40v4qy.fsf@firstfloor.org>
On 10/05/2012 05:11 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com> writes:
>>>
>>
>> I remembered that 3 months ago when Alex tested the numa/sched patches
>> there were 20% regression on SpecJbb2005 due to the numa balancer.
>
> 20% on anything sounds like a show stopper to me.
>
> -Andi
>
Much worse than that on an 8-way machine for a multi-node multi-threaded
process, from what I can tell. (Andrea's AutoNUMA microbenchmark is a
simple version of that). The contention on the page table lock
( &(&mm->page_table_lock)->rlock ) goes through the roof, with threads
constantly fighting to invalidate translations and re-fault them.
This is on a DL980 with Xeon E7-2870s @ 2.4 GHz, btw.
Running linux-next with no tweaks other than
kernel.sched_migration_cost_ns = 500000 gives:
numa01
8325.78
numa01_HARD_BIND
488.98
(The Hard Bind being a case where the threads are pre-bound to the
node set with their memory, so what should be a fairly "best case" for
comparison).
If the SchedNUMA scanning period is upped to 25000 ms (to keep repeated
invalidations from being triggered while the contention for the first
invalidation pass is still being fought over):
numa01
4272.93
numa01_HARD_BIND
498.98
Since this is a "big" process in the current SchedNUMA code and hence
much more likely to trip invalidations, forcing task_numa_big() to
always return false in order to avoid the frequent invalidations gives:
numa01
429.07
numa01_HARD_BIND
466.67
Finally, with SchedNUMA entirely disabled but the rest of linux-next
left intact:
numa01
1075.31
numa01_HARD_BIND
484.20
I didn't write down the lock contentions for comparison, but yes -
the contention does decrease similarly to the time decreases.
There are other microbenchmarks, but those suffice to show the
regression pattern. I mentioned this to the RedHat folks last
week, so I expect this is already being worked. It seemed pertinent
to bring up given the discussion about the current state of linux-next
though, just so folks know. From where I'm sitting, it looks to
me like the scan period is way too aggressive and there's too much
work potentially attempted during a "scan" (by which I mean the
hard tick driven choice to invalidate in order to set up potential
migration faults). The current code walks/invalidates the entire
virtual address space, skipping few vmas. For a very large 64-bit
process, that's going to be a *lot* of translations (or even vmas
if the address space is fragmented) to walk. That's a seriously
long path coming from the timer code. I would think capping the
number of translations to process per visit would help.
Hope this helps the discussion,
Don Morris
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Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-03 23:50 [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 01/33] autonuma: add Documentation/vm/autonuma.txt Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:37 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 02/33] autonuma: make set_pmd_at always available Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 03/33] autonuma: export is_vma_temporary_stack() even if CONFIG_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=n Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 10:54 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 04/33] autonuma: define _PAGE_NUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 05/33] autonuma: pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 16:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 19:54 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 06/33] autonuma: teach gup_fast about pmd_numa Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:22 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:01 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 07/33] autonuma: mm_autonuma and task_autonuma data structures Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 12:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 15:24 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 15:57 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 0:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-12 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 17:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:06 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 08/33] autonuma: define the autonuma flags Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:46 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 20:17 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 09/33] autonuma: core autonuma.h header Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 10/33] autonuma: CPU follows memory algorithm Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 14:58 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 0:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12 8:29 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 11/33] autonuma: add the autonuma_last_nid in the page structure Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 12/33] autonuma: Migrate On Fault per NUMA node data Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:43 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 13/33] autonuma: autonuma_enter/exit Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 13:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 14/33] autonuma: call autonuma_setup_new_exec() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:47 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 15/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init task_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:53 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 17:34 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <20121011175953.GT1818@redhat.com>
2012-10-12 14:03 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 16/33] autonuma: alloc/free/init mm_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:50 ` [PATCH 17/33] autonuma: prevent select_task_rq_fair to return -1 Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 18/33] autonuma: teach CFS about autonuma affinity Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-05 6:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-05 11:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-06 2:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-06 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-07 6:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-08 7:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 19/33] autonuma: memory follows CPU algorithm and task/mm_autonuma stats collection Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-10 22:01 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-10 22:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:06 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15 8:24 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-15 9:20 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-15 10:00 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 20/33] autonuma: default mempolicy follow AutoNUMA Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 20:03 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-11 18:32 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 21/33] autonuma: call autonuma_split_huge_page() Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:33 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 22/33] autonuma: make khugepaged pte_numa aware Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:36 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 23/33] autonuma: retain page last_nid information in khugepaged Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:44 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 11:37 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-12 12:35 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 24/33] autonuma: split_huge_page: transfer the NUMA type from the pmd to the pte Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:45 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 25/33] autonuma: numa hinting page faults entry points Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:47 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 26/33] autonuma: reset autonuma page data when pages are freed Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 27/33] autonuma: link mm/autonuma.o and kernel/sched/numa.o Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 28/33] autonuma: add CONFIG_AUTONUMA and CONFIG_AUTONUMA_DEFAULT_ENABLED Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 18:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 29/33] autonuma: page_autonuma Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 14:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-04 20:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-10-05 11:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 30/33] autonuma: bugcheck page_autonuma fields on newly allocated pages Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 31/33] autonuma: boost khugepaged scanning rate Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 32/33] autonuma: add migrate_allow_first_fault knob in sysfs Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-03 23:51 ` [PATCH 33/33] autonuma: add mm_autonuma working set estimation Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-04 18:39 ` [PATCH 00/33] AutoNUMA27 Andrew Morton
2012-10-04 20:49 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:08 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-05 23:14 ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-05 23:57 ` Tim Chen
2012-10-06 0:11 ` Andi Kleen
2012-10-08 13:44 ` Don Morris [this message]
2012-10-08 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2012-10-11 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 14:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-11 15:35 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 0:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12 14:54 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 21:34 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-12 1:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-12 8:46 ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-13 18:40 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-14 4:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-10-15 8:16 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-23 16:32 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-10-16 13:48 ` Mel Gorman
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