* Re: [Bug 49361] New: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make system unresponsive and reboot
2012-10-23 19:36 ` [Bug 49361] New: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make system unresponsive and reboot Andrew Morton
@ 2012-10-24 0:34 ` Ni zhan Chen
2012-10-24 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-24 5:53 ` David Rientjes
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ni zhan Chen @ 2012-10-24 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, bugzilla-daemon, marc
On 10/24/2012 03:36 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> (switched to email. Please respond via emailed reply-to-all, not via the
> bugzilla web interface).
>
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:06:18 +0000 (UTC)
> bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
How to subscribe this bugzilla ML?
>
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49361
>>
>> Summary: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make
>> system unresponsive and reboot
>> Product: Memory Management
>> Version: 2.5
>> Kernel Version: 3.6.2
>> Platform: All
>> OS/Version: Linux
>> Tree: Mainline
>> Status: NEW
>> Severity: normal
>> Priority: P1
>> Component: Page Allocator
>> AssignedTo: akpm@linux-foundation.org
>> ReportedBy: marc@offline.be
>> Regression: No
>>
>>
>> workaround: configure TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_MADVISE instead
>>
>>
>>
>> I run a bleeding edge gentoo with 2 6-core AMD CPUs. I daily updated
>> 3 gentoo systems on this computer all using -j13. Until recently, I
>> never experienced issues, CPUs may all go neer 100%, no problem.
>>
>> Now, when building icedtea-7, for example, regardless of -j13 or -j1,
>> about 10 javac instances run threaded (either spreaded on multiple or
>> one core) and go to about 1000% CPU together.
>>
>> Nothing else can be started. This can take 24 hours, no improvement.
>>
>> Only one way to recover: kill -9 javac.
>>
>> One time kernel rebooted, I could not find any relevant kernel logs
>> before reboot.
>>
>>
>> I hd noticed khugepaged on top in top (just below 1000% CPU javac)
>> which made me look at HUGEPAGE settings.
>>
>> FWIW, an strace on javac PID showed it doing nothing in futex
>>
>> As said, MADVISE fixes issue.
>>
>>
>> I am not sure if this is really a kernel bug, however, no matter how
>> bad programs behave, other programs should be able to get CPU and
>> reboot (unless perhaps watchdog) should not happen.
>>
>> Even if not a kernel bug, it is strange that chanding one single
>> kernel config fixes issue and massive building works again.
>>
>> I sincerely hope I provide hint to developers to fix/improve kernel
>> and I am willing to cooperate to get this happen. Note that for now I
>> have workaround in place (to build/cross-build my other systems on
>> this dedicated build host)
>>
>> standby ~ # /usr/src/linux-3.6.2-gentoo/scripts/ver_linux
>> If some fields are empty or look unusual you may have an old version.
>> Compare to the current minimal requirements in Documentation/Changes.
>>
>> Linux standby 3.6.2-gentoo #2 SMP Mon Oct 22 18:56:49 CEST 2012 x86_64 AMD
>> Opteron(tm) Processor 4184 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
>>
>> Gnu C 4.7.2
>> Gnu make 3.82
>> binutils 2.22
>> util-linux 2.22.1
>> mount debug
>> module-init-tools 10
>> e2fsprogs 1.42.6
>> jfsutils 1.1.15
>> xfsprogs 3.1.8
>> quota-tools 4.00-pre1.
>> PPP 2.4.5
>> Linux C Library 2.15
>> Dynamic linker (ldd) 2.15
>> Procps UNKNOWN
>> Net-tools 1.60_p20120127084908
>> Kbd 1.15.3wip
>> Sh-utils 8.19
>> wireless-tools 30
>> Modules Loaded fbcon bitblit softcursor font rfcomm w83627ehf hwmon_vid
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>> ac97_bus firmware_class snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec
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* Re: [Bug 49361] New: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make system unresponsive and reboot
2012-10-24 0:34 ` Ni zhan Chen
@ 2012-10-24 0:40 ` Andrew Morton
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Morton @ 2012-10-24 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ni zhan Chen; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, bugzilla-daemon, marc
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:34:35 +0800 Ni zhan Chen <nizhan.chen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/24/2012 03:36 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > (switched to email. Please respond via emailed reply-to-all, not via the
> > bugzilla web interface).
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 00:06:18 +0000 (UTC)
> > bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
>
> How to subscribe this bugzilla ML?
I don't know, really. Create an account at bugzilla.kernel.org then work
out how to get it to send you email for each new report ;)
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* Re: [Bug 49361] New: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make system unresponsive and reboot
2012-10-23 19:36 ` [Bug 49361] New: configuring TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS can make system unresponsive and reboot Andrew Morton
2012-10-24 0:34 ` Ni zhan Chen
@ 2012-10-24 5:53 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 20:33 ` David Rientjes
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Rientjes @ 2012-10-24 5:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marc; +Cc: Andrew Morton, Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, bugzilla-daemon
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > I run a bleeding edge gentoo with 2 6-core AMD CPUs. I daily updated
> > 3 gentoo systems on this computer all using -j13. Until recently, I
> > never experienced issues, CPUs may all go neer 100%, no problem.
> >
> > Now, when building icedtea-7, for example, regardless of -j13 or -j1,
> > about 10 javac instances run threaded (either spreaded on multiple or
> > one core) and go to about 1000% CPU together.
> >
> > Nothing else can be started. This can take 24 hours, no improvement.
> >
> > Only one way to recover: kill -9 javac.
> >
> > One time kernel rebooted, I could not find any relevant kernel logs
> > before reboot.
> >
> >
> > I hd noticed khugepaged on top in top (just below 1000% CPU javac)
> > which made me look at HUGEPAGE settings.
> >
> > FWIW, an strace on javac PID showed it doing nothing in futex
> >
> > As said, MADVISE fixes issue.
> >
We'll need to collect some information before we can figure out what the
problem is with 3.5.2.
First, let's take a look at khugepaged. By default, it's supposed to wake
up rarely (10s at minimum) and only scan 4K pages before going back to
sleep. Having a consistent and very high cpu usage suggests the settings
aren't the default. Can you do
cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/{alloc,scan}_sleep_millisecs
The defaults should be 60000 and 10000, respectively. Then can you do
cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/pages_to_scan
which should be 4096. If those are your settings, then it seems like
khugepaged in 3.5.2 is going crazy and we'll need to look into that. Try
collecting
grep -e "thp|compact" /proc/vmstat
and
cat /proc/$(pidof khugepaged)/stack
appended to a logfile at regular intervals after your start the build with
transparent hugepages enabled always. After the machine becomes
unresponsive and reboots, post that log.
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2012-10-24 5:53 ` David Rientjes
@ 2012-10-29 20:33 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 17:14 ` Mel Gorman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Rientjes @ 2012-10-29 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: marc, Mel Gorman
Cc: Andrew Morton, Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, bugzilla-daemon
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, David Rientjes wrote:
> We'll need to collect some information before we can figure out what the
> problem is with 3.5.2.
>
> First, let's take a look at khugepaged. By default, it's supposed to wake
> up rarely (10s at minimum) and only scan 4K pages before going back to
> sleep. Having a consistent and very high cpu usage suggests the settings
> aren't the default. Can you do
>
> cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/{alloc,scan}_sleep_millisecs
>
> The defaults should be 60000 and 10000, respectively. Then can you do
>
> cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/pages_to_scan
>
> which should be 4096. If those are your settings, then it seems like
> khugepaged in 3.5.2 is going crazy and we'll need to look into that. Try
> collecting
>
> grep -e "thp|compact" /proc/vmstat
>
> and
>
> cat /proc/$(pidof khugepaged)/stack
>
> appended to a logfile at regular intervals after your start the build with
> transparent hugepages enabled always. After the machine becomes
> unresponsive and reboots, post that log.
>
This looks like an overly aggressive memory compaction issue; consider
from your "49361.1" attachment:
Sat Oct 27 02:39:05 CEST 2012
compact_blocks_moved 488381
compact_pages_moved 581856
compact_pagemigrate_failed 52533
compact_stall 59
compact_fail 36
compact_success 23
Sat Oct 27 02:39:15 CEST 2012
compact_blocks_moved 7797480
compact_pages_moved 589996
compact_pagemigrate_failed 53507
compact_stall 90
compact_fail 56
compact_success 24
Sat Oct 27 02:43:07 CEST 2012
compact_blocks_moved 276422153
compact_pages_moved 597836
compact_pagemigrate_failed 53886
compact_stall 109
compact_fail 76
compact_success 26
In four minutes, transparent hugepage allocation has scanned 275933772 2MB
pageblocks and only been successful three times in defragmenting enough
memory for the allocation to succeed. It's scanning on average 5518675
pageblocks each time it is invoked.
And then, from your "49361.2" attachment:
Sat Oct 27 02:48:30 CEST 2012
compact_blocks_moved 504039382
compact_pages_moved 776820
compact_pagemigrate_failed 58437
compact_stall 209
compact_fail 163
compact_success 36
...
Sat Oct 27 02:51:50 CEST 2012
compact_blocks_moved 722746600
compact_pages_moved 776820
compact_pagemigrate_failed 58437
compact_stall 209
compact_fail 173
compact_success 36
For more than three minutes, compact_stall does not increase but
compact_fail does (and compact_blocks_moved increases 43%), which suggests
deferred compaction is kicking in but for some reason we are still
scanning like crazy.
Reading the code, the only way this can happen is if nr_remaining is
always 0 (compact_pagemigrate_failed never increases), but also nr_migrate
is always 0 (compact_pages_moved never increases). So I think we're stuck
in the while loop in compact_zone() and are constantly calling
migrate_pages(). compact_finished() must be returning COMPACT_CONTINUE
even though cc->nr_migratepages == 0?
Adding Mel Gorman to the cc.
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2012-10-29 20:33 ` David Rientjes
@ 2012-11-01 17:14 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-02 18:00 ` Marc Duponcheel
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mel Gorman @ 2012-11-01 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Rientjes
Cc: marc, Andrew Morton, Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm, bugzilla-daemon
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 01:33:06PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, David Rientjes wrote:
>
> > We'll need to collect some information before we can figure out what the
> > problem is with 3.5.2.
> >
3.6.2 or 3.5.2?
The bug mentioned "recently" but does not say what the last known
working kernel was. What is the most recent working kernel so the
problem candidate can be narrowed down?
> > First, let's take a look at khugepaged. By default, it's supposed to wake
> > up rarely (10s at minimum) and only scan 4K pages before going back to
> > sleep. Having a consistent and very high cpu usage suggests the settings
> > aren't the default. Can you do
> >
> > cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/{alloc,scan}_sleep_millisecs
> >
> > The defaults should be 60000 and 10000, respectively. Then can you do
> >
> > cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/pages_to_scan
> >
> > which should be 4096. If those are your settings, then it seems like
> > khugepaged in 3.5.2 is going crazy and we'll need to look into that. Try
> > collecting
> >
> > grep -e "thp|compact" /proc/vmstat
> >
> > and
> >
> > cat /proc/$(pidof khugepaged)/stack
> >
> > appended to a logfile at regular intervals after your start the build with
> > transparent hugepages enabled always. After the machine becomes
> > unresponsive and reboots, post that log.
> >
>
> This looks like an overly aggressive memory compaction issue; consider
> from your "49361.1" attachment:
>
> Sat Oct 27 02:39:05 CEST 2012
> compact_blocks_moved 488381
> compact_pages_moved 581856
> compact_pagemigrate_failed 52533
> compact_stall 59
> compact_fail 36
> compact_success 23
> Sat Oct 27 02:39:15 CEST 2012
> compact_blocks_moved 7797480
> compact_pages_moved 589996
> compact_pagemigrate_failed 53507
> compact_stall 90
> compact_fail 56
> compact_success 24
> Sat Oct 27 02:43:07 CEST 2012
> compact_blocks_moved 276422153
> compact_pages_moved 597836
> compact_pagemigrate_failed 53886
> compact_stall 109
> compact_fail 76
> compact_success 26
>
> In four minutes, transparent hugepage allocation has scanned 275933772 2MB
> pageblocks and only been successful three times in defragmenting enough
> memory for the allocation to succeed. It's scanning on average 5518675
> pageblocks each time it is invoked.
>
We had the bug recently about excessive scanning and lock contention
within compaction after lumpy reclaim was removed between 3.4 and 3.5.
The impact was not obvious because compaction was used less frequently
when lumpy reclaim was in place but once the crutch went away, it fell
over. The "solution" as it stands right now is the following patches on
top of 3.6. Can they be tested please?
e64c5237cf6ff474cb2f3f832f48f2b441dd9979 mm: compaction: abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long
3cc668f4e30fbd97b3c0574d8cac7a83903c9bc7 mm: compaction: move fatal signal check out of compact_checklock_irqsave
661c4cb9b829110cb68c18ea05a56be39f75a4d2 mm: compaction: Update try_to_compact_pages()kerneldoc comment
2a1402aa044b55c2d30ab0ed9405693ef06fb07c mm: compaction: acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible
f40d1e42bb988d2a26e8e111ea4c4c7bac819b7e mm: compaction: acquire the zone->lock as late as possible
753341a4b85ff337487b9959c71c529f522004f4 revert "mm: have order > 0 compaction start off where it left"
bb13ffeb9f6bfeb301443994dfbf29f91117dfb3 mm: compaction: cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated
c89511ab2f8fe2b47585e60da8af7fd213ec877e mm: compaction: Restart compaction from near where it left off
62997027ca5b3d4618198ed8b1aba40b61b1137b mm: compaction: clear PG_migrate_skip based on compaction and reclaim activity
0db63d7e25f96e2c6da925c002badf6f144ddf30 mm: compaction: correct the nr_strict va isolated check for CMA
I can provide a monolithic patch of these commits if that is preferred.
> Adding Mel Gorman to the cc.
Thanks David.
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2012-11-01 17:14 ` Mel Gorman
@ 2012-11-02 18:00 ` Marc Duponcheel
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Marc Duponcheel @ 2012-11-02 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mel Gorman
Cc: David Rientjes, Andrew Morton, Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm,
bugzilla-daemon, Marc Duponcheel
Hi Mel
Thanks for your interest.
it is 3.6.2 that I tested
I am not sure when TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_ALWAYS was introduced but it
could be that the problem started first time I had it configured.
In any case, I think I saw problem first on 3.6.0 or 3.5.x that came
just before 3.6.0
Looking into logs: first time it happened was on Oct 7. But I am not
sure what exact kernel I was running then (it -could- have been
3.5.6).
I sincerely hope this helps ...
As mentioned, reproduction is not hard.
Also: I can grant ssh access for you to troubleshoot.
Have a nice day
On 2012 Nov 01, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 01:33:06PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Oct 2012, David Rientjes wrote:
> >
> > > We'll need to collect some information before we can figure out what the
> > > problem is with 3.5.2.
> > >
>
> 3.6.2 or 3.5.2?
>
> The bug mentioned "recently" but does not say what the last known
> working kernel was. What is the most recent working kernel so the
> problem candidate can be narrowed down?
>
> > > First, let's take a look at khugepaged. By default, it's supposed to wake
> > > up rarely (10s at minimum) and only scan 4K pages before going back to
> > > sleep. Having a consistent and very high cpu usage suggests the settings
> > > aren't the default. Can you do
> > >
> > > cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/{alloc,scan}_sleep_millisecs
> > >
> > > The defaults should be 60000 and 10000, respectively. Then can you do
> > >
> > > cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/pages_to_scan
> > >
> > > which should be 4096. If those are your settings, then it seems like
> > > khugepaged in 3.5.2 is going crazy and we'll need to look into that. Try
> > > collecting
> > >
> > > grep -e "thp|compact" /proc/vmstat
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > cat /proc/$(pidof khugepaged)/stack
> > >
> > > appended to a logfile at regular intervals after your start the build with
> > > transparent hugepages enabled always. After the machine becomes
> > > unresponsive and reboots, post that log.
> > >
> >
> > This looks like an overly aggressive memory compaction issue; consider
> > from your "49361.1" attachment:
> >
> > Sat Oct 27 02:39:05 CEST 2012
> > compact_blocks_moved 488381
> > compact_pages_moved 581856
> > compact_pagemigrate_failed 52533
> > compact_stall 59
> > compact_fail 36
> > compact_success 23
> > Sat Oct 27 02:39:15 CEST 2012
> > compact_blocks_moved 7797480
> > compact_pages_moved 589996
> > compact_pagemigrate_failed 53507
> > compact_stall 90
> > compact_fail 56
> > compact_success 24
> > Sat Oct 27 02:43:07 CEST 2012
> > compact_blocks_moved 276422153
> > compact_pages_moved 597836
> > compact_pagemigrate_failed 53886
> > compact_stall 109
> > compact_fail 76
> > compact_success 26
> >
> > In four minutes, transparent hugepage allocation has scanned 275933772 2MB
> > pageblocks and only been successful three times in defragmenting enough
> > memory for the allocation to succeed. It's scanning on average 5518675
> > pageblocks each time it is invoked.
> >
>
> We had the bug recently about excessive scanning and lock contention
> within compaction after lumpy reclaim was removed between 3.4 and 3.5.
> The impact was not obvious because compaction was used less frequently
> when lumpy reclaim was in place but once the crutch went away, it fell
> over. The "solution" as it stands right now is the following patches on
> top of 3.6. Can they be tested please?
>
> e64c5237cf6ff474cb2f3f832f48f2b441dd9979 mm: compaction: abort compaction loop if lock is contended or run too long
> 3cc668f4e30fbd97b3c0574d8cac7a83903c9bc7 mm: compaction: move fatal signal check out of compact_checklock_irqsave
> 661c4cb9b829110cb68c18ea05a56be39f75a4d2 mm: compaction: Update try_to_compact_pages()kerneldoc comment
> 2a1402aa044b55c2d30ab0ed9405693ef06fb07c mm: compaction: acquire the zone->lru_lock as late as possible
> f40d1e42bb988d2a26e8e111ea4c4c7bac819b7e mm: compaction: acquire the zone->lock as late as possible
> 753341a4b85ff337487b9959c71c529f522004f4 revert "mm: have order > 0 compaction start off where it left"
> bb13ffeb9f6bfeb301443994dfbf29f91117dfb3 mm: compaction: cache if a pageblock was scanned and no pages were isolated
> c89511ab2f8fe2b47585e60da8af7fd213ec877e mm: compaction: Restart compaction from near where it left off
> 62997027ca5b3d4618198ed8b1aba40b61b1137b mm: compaction: clear PG_migrate_skip based on compaction and reclaim activity
> 0db63d7e25f96e2c6da925c002badf6f144ddf30 mm: compaction: correct the nr_strict va isolated check for CMA
>
> I can provide a monolithic patch of these commits if that is preferred.
>
> > Adding Mel Gorman to the cc.
>
> Thanks David.
>
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> SUSE Labs
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