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From: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	George Spelvin <linux@horizon.com>,
	Johannes Hirte <johannes.hirte@fem.tu-ilmenau.de>,
	Tomas Racek <tracek@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@leemhuis.info>,
	Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kswapd craziness in 3.7
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 14:35:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B6131E.2020805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFywygqWUBNWtZYa+vk8G0cpURZbFdC7+tOzyWk6tLi=WA@mail.gmail.com>

Dne 27.11.2012 21:58, Linus Torvalds napsal(a):
> Note that in the meantime, I've also applied (through Andrew) the
> patch that reverts commit c654345924f7 (see commit 82b212f40059
> 'Revert "mm: remove __GFP_NO_KSWAPD"').
>
> I wonder if that revert may be bogus, and a result of this same issue.
> Maybe that revert should be reverted, and replaced with your patch?
>
> Mel? Zdenek? What's the status here?
>


I've tried for longer term:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/5/308
https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/12/113

these 2 seems to be now merge in -rc7
(since they disappeared after my git rebase)


and added slightly modified patch from Jiri
(https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/15/950
(Unsure where it still applies for -rc7??)

Also I've Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
fs: Fix imbalance in freeze protection in mark_files_ro()
(which is still not applied to upstream)

And I think I'm NOT seeing huge load from kswapd0.
(At least related to my not really long uptimes)


But also I'm now  frequent victim of my other report:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/15/369

Which turns into a problem, that if my T61 docking station
has enabled support for 'old hw' for docking in BIOS - i.e. serial output'
it becomes unstable and either 1st. or 2nd. resume deadlocks
machine - and serial port gives just garbage)

Zdenek


>                   Linus
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I hope I included everybody that participated in the various threads
>> on kswapd getting stuck / exhibiting high CPU usage.  We were looking
>> at at least three root causes as far as I can see, so it's not really
>> clear who observed which problem.  Please correct me if the
>> reported-by, tested-by, bisected-by tags are incomplete.
>>
>> One problem was, as it seems, overly aggressive reclaim due to scaling
>> up reclaim goals based on compaction failures.  This one was reverted
>> in 9671009 mm: revert "mm: vmscan: scale number of pages reclaimed by
>> reclaim/compaction based on failures".
>>
>> Another one was an accounting problem where a freed higher order page
>> was underreported, and so kswapd had trouble restoring watermarks.
>> This one was fixed in ef6c5be fix incorrect NR_FREE_PAGES accounting
>> (appears like memory leak).
>>
>> The third one is a problem with small zones, like the DMA zone, where
>> the high watermark is lower than the low watermark plus compaction gap
>> (2 * allocation size).  The zonelist reclaim in kswapd would do
>> nothing because all high watermarks are met, but the compaction logic
>> would find its own requirements unmet and loop over the zones again.
>> Indefinitely, until some third party would free enough memory to help
>> meet the higher compaction watermark.  The problematic code has been
>> there since the 3.4 merge window for non-THP higher order allocations
>> but has been more prominent since the 3.7 merge window, where kswapd
>> is also woken up for the much more common THP allocations.
>>
>> The following patch should fix the third issue by making both reclaim
>> and compaction code in kswapd use the same predicate to determine
>> whether a zone is balanced or not.
>>
>> Hopefully, the sum of all three fixes should tame kswapd enough for
>> 3.7.
>>
>> Johannes
>>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-28 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-27 20:48 kswapd craziness in 3.7 Johannes Weiner
2012-11-27 20:48 ` [patch] mm: vmscan: fix kswapd endless loop on higher order allocation Johannes Weiner
2012-11-27 20:58 ` kswapd craziness in 3.7 Linus Torvalds
2012-11-27 21:16   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-27 21:49     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-11-27 22:02       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-27 22:26         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-11-27 23:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 10:13             ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-28 10:51               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-11-28 16:42               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-28 22:52               ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-28 23:54                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-29  0:14                   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 15:30                   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-11-29 17:05                     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-11-30 12:39                       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-12-01  0:45                         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-03  8:30                           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-12-03 13:08                             ` Fedora repo (was: Re: kswapd craziness in 3.7) Borislav Petkov
2012-12-03 19:42                             ` kswapd craziness in 3.7 Johannes Weiner
2012-12-04 21:42                               ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-05  3:01                                 ` Bruno Wolff III
2012-12-06 17:37                                   ` Bruno Wolff III
2012-12-06 19:31                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-06 19:43                                       ` Rik van Riel
2012-12-06 20:23                                       ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-06 20:32                                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-12-08 12:06                                       ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-08 21:22                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-09  1:01                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-09 21:59                                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-12-10 11:03                                             ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-10 16:39                                               ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-10 18:01                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-10 18:33                                                   ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-10 19:13                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-10 20:35                                                       ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-10 21:28                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-10 21:42                                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-10 21:47                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-12-10 21:54                                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-10 22:15                                                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-10 23:27                                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-12-11  0:19                                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-11 21:56                                                           ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-19 22:24                                                           ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-10 18:29                                               ` Zlatko Calusic
2012-12-06  8:09                               ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-11-27 21:29   ` Johannes Weiner
2012-11-28 13:35   ` Zdenek Kabelac [this message]
2012-11-28 14:04     ` Jiri Slaby
2012-11-28  9:45 ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03 15:23   ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-12-03 19:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-04  9:05       ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-12-04  9:15         ` Jiri Slaby
2012-12-04 16:11           ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-04 16:22             ` Jiri Slaby
2012-12-04 19:50               ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-08 10:35             ` Jiri Slaby
2012-12-04 16:15         ` Johannes Weiner
2012-12-06 13:51         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-12-03 13:14 ` Jiri Slaby
2012-12-04  8:55   ` Jiri Slaby

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