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From: Jiang Liu <liuj97@gmail.com>
To: Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:53:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B784F9.4030105@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B73B22.90500@jp.fujitsu.com>

Hi Yasuaki,
	Forgot to mention that I have no objection to this patchset.
I think it's a good start point, but we still need to improve usabilities
of memory hotplug by passing platform specific information from BIOS.
And mechanism provided by this patchset will/may be used to improve
usabilities too. 

Regards!
Gerry

On 11/29/2012 06:38 PM, Yasuaki Ishimatsu wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> 2012/11/29 6:34, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> 1. use firmware information
>>>    According to ACPI spec 5.0, SRAT table has memory affinity structure
>>>    and the structure has Hot Pluggable Filed. See "5.2.16.2 Memory
>>>    Affinity Structure". If we use the information, we might be able to
>>>    specify movable memory by firmware. For example, if Hot Pluggable
>>>    Filed is enabled, Linux sets the memory as movable memory.
>>>
>>> 2. use boot option
>>>    This is our proposal. New boot option can specify memory range to use
>>>    as movable memory.
>>
>> Isn't this just moving the work to the user? To pick good values for the
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> movable areas, they need to know how the memory lines up across
>> node boundaries ... because they need to make sure to allow some
>> non-movable memory allocations on each node so that the kernel can
>> take advantage of node locality.
> 
> There is no problem.
> Linux has already two boot options, kernelcore= and movablecore=.
> So if we use them, non-movable memory is divided into each node evenly.
> 
> But there is no way to specify a node used as movable currently. So
> we proposed the new boot option.
> 
>> So the user would have to read at least the SRAT table, and perhaps
>> more, to figure out what to provide as arguments.
>>
> 
>> Since this is going to be used on a dynamic system where nodes might
>> be added an removed - the right values for these arguments might
>> change from one boot to the next. So even if the user gets them right
>> on day 1, a month later when a new node has been added, or a broken
>> node removed the values would be stale.
> 
> I don't think so. Even if we hot add/remove node, the memory range of
> each memory device is not changed. So we don't need to change the boot
> option.
> 
> Thanks,
> Yasuaki Ishimatsu
> 
>>
>> -Tony
>>
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-29 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-23 10:44 [PATCH v2 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option Tang Chen
2012-11-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2012-11-24  1:19   ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-26  1:19     ` Tang Chen
2012-12-02 15:11   ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] page_alloc: add movable_memmap kernel parameter Tang Chen
2012-11-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] page_alloc: Introduce zone_movable_limit[] to keep movable limit for nodes Tang Chen
2012-12-05 15:46   ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06  1:20     ` Tang Chen
2012-11-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] page_alloc: Make movablecore_map has higher priority Tang Chen
2012-12-05 15:43   ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06  1:26     ` Tang Chen
2012-12-06  2:26       ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06  2:51         ` Jianguo Wu
2012-12-06  2:57           ` Tang Chen
2012-12-09  8:10         ` Tang Chen
2012-12-10  2:15           ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] page_alloc: Bootmem limit with movablecore_map Tang Chen
2012-11-26 12:22   ` wujianguo
2012-11-26 12:53     ` Tang Chen
2012-11-26 12:40   ` wujianguo
2012-11-26 13:15     ` Tang Chen
2012-11-26 15:48       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-27  0:58         ` Jianguo Wu
2012-11-27  3:19           ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-27  3:22             ` Jianguo Wu
2012-11-27  3:34               ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-27  1:12         ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-27  1:20           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-27  3:15         ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-27  5:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-06 17:28             ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-06 17:41               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-07  0:18                 ` Jiang Liu
2012-12-19  9:17     ` Tang Chen
2012-11-27  3:10 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option wujianguo
2012-11-27  5:43   ` Tang Chen
2012-11-27  6:20     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-27  6:47     ` Jianguo Wu
2012-11-28  3:47   ` Tang Chen
2012-11-28  4:01     ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28  5:21       ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-28  5:17         ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28  4:53     ` Jianguo Wu
2012-11-27  8:00 ` Bob Liu
2012-11-27  8:29   ` Tang Chen
2012-11-27  8:49     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-27  9:47       ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-27  9:53         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-27  9:59       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-11-27 12:09     ` Bob Liu
2012-11-27 12:49       ` Tang Chen
2012-11-28  3:24         ` Bob Liu
2012-11-28  4:08           ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28  6:16             ` Tang Chen
2012-11-28  7:03               ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28  8:29             ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-28  8:28               ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28  8:38                 ` Wen Congyang
2012-11-29  0:43               ` Jaegeuk Hanse
2012-11-29  1:24                 ` Tang Chen
2012-11-30  9:20             ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-11-28  8:47 ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-28 21:34   ` Luck, Tony
2012-11-28 21:38     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29 11:00       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-29 16:07         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29 22:41           ` Luck, Tony
2012-11-29 22:45             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-30  2:56         ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-30  3:15           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-11-30 15:36             ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-30  2:58         ` Luck, Tony
2012-11-30  3:28           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-30 10:19           ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-30 10:52           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-29 10:38     ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-11-29 11:05       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-29 15:47       ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-29 15:53       ` Jiang Liu [this message]
2012-11-29  1:42   ` Jaegeuk Hanse
2012-11-29  2:25     ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-29  2:49       ` Wanpeng Li
2012-11-29  2:59         ` Jiang Liu
2012-11-29  2:49       ` Wanpeng Li
2012-11-30 22:27       ` Toshi Kani

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