From: Shachar Raindel <raindel@mellanox.com>
To: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Roland Dreier <roland@purestorage.com>,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Sagi Grimberg <sagig@mellanox.com>,
Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>
Subject: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Hardware initiated paging of user process pages, hardware access to the CPU page tables of user processes
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:18:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5114DF05.7070702@mellanox.com> (raw)
Hi,
We would like to present a reference implementation for safely sharing
memory pages from user space with the hardware, without pinning.
We will be happy to hear the community feedback on our prototype
implementation, and suggestions for future improvements.
We would also like to discuss adding features to the core MM subsystem
to assist hardware access to user memory without pinning.
Following is a longer motivation and explanation on the technology
presented:
Many application developers would like to be able to be able to
communicate directly with the hardware from the userspace.
Use cases for that includes high performance networking API such as
InfiniBand, RoCE and iWarp and interfacing with GPUs.
Currently, if the user space application wants to share system memory
with the hardware device, the kernel component must pin the memory pages
in RAM, using get_user_pages.
This is a hurdle, as it usually makes large portions the application
memory unmovable. This pinning also makes the user space development
model very complicated a?? one needs to register memory before using it
for communication with the hardware.
We use the mmu-notifiers [1] mechanism to inform the hardware when the
mapping of a page is changed. If the hardware tries to access a page
which is not yet mapped for the hardware, it requests a resolution for
the page address from the kernel.
This mechanism allows the hardware to access the entire address space of
the user application, without pinning even a single page.
We would like to use the LSF/MM forum opportunity to discuss open issues
we have for further development, such as:
-Allowing the hardware to perform page table walk, similar to
get_user_pages_fast to resolve user pages that are already in RAM.
-Batching page eviction by various kernel subsystems (swapper,
page-cache) to reduce the amount of communication needed with the
hardware in such events
-Hinting from the hardware to the MM regarding page fetches which are
speculative, similarly to prefetching done by the page-cache
-Page-in notifications from the kernel to the driver, such that we can
keep our secondary TLB in sync with the kernel page table without
incurring page faults.
-Allowed and banned actions while in an MMU notifier callback. We have
already done some work on making the MMU notifiers sleepable [2], but
there might be additional limitations, which we would like to discuss.
-Hinting from the MMU notifiers as for the reason for the notification -
for example we would like to react differently if a page was moved by
NUMA migration vs. page being swapped out.
[1] http://lwn.net/Articles/266320/
[2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/85002
Thanks,
--Shachar
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next reply other threads:[~2013-02-08 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-08 11:18 Shachar Raindel [this message]
2013-02-08 15:21 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] Hardware initiated paging of user process pages, hardware access to the CPU page tables of user processes Jerome Glisse
2013-04-16 7:03 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-16 16:27 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-16 23:50 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-17 14:01 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-17 23:48 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-18 1:02 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-02-09 6:05 ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-02-09 16:29 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-09 8:28 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-09 14:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-10 1:41 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-10 20:45 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-11 3:42 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-11 18:38 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-12 1:54 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-12 2:11 ` [Lsf-pc] " Rik van Riel
2013-04-12 2:57 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-12 5:44 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-12 13:32 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-10 1:57 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-10 20:55 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-11 3:37 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-11 18:48 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-12 3:13 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-12 3:21 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-15 8:39 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-15 15:38 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-04-16 4:20 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-16 16:19 ` Jerome Glisse
2013-02-10 7:54 ` Shachar Raindel
2013-04-09 8:17 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-10 1:48 ` Simon Jeons
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