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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: fadvise: fix POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:24:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512A5AC4.30808@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51298B0C.2020400@ubuntu.com>

On 02/23/2013 07:37 PM, Phillip Susi wrote:
> This is the correct behavior prescribed by posix.  If you have been
> using it for that purpose in the past, then you were using the wrong
> syscall.  If you want to begin writeout now, then you should be using
> sync_file_range().  As it was, it only initiated writeout if the
> backing device was not already congested, which is going to no longer
> be the case rather soon if you ( or other tasks ) are writing
> significant amounts of data.
> 
> If you really want to stay out of memory reclaim entirely, then you
> should be using O_DIRECT.

These are folks that want to use the page cache, but also want to be in
control of when it gets written out (sync_file_range() is used) and when
it goes away.  Sure, they can use O_DIRECT and do all of the buffering
internally, but that means changing the application.

I actually really like the concept behind your patch.  It looks like
very useful functionality.  I'm just saying that I know it will break
_existing_ users.

I'm actually in the process of _trying_ to extricate this particular app
from handling their own reclaim management entirely.  Your patch looks
like a nice part of the puzzle.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-24 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-22 19:57 POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED implemented wrong Phillip Susi
2013-02-22 20:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-02-22 21:52   ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-23 22:57     ` [PATCH 0/2] FADV_DONTNEED and FADV_NOREUSE Phillip Susi
2013-02-23 22:58     ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: fadvise: fix POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED Phillip Susi
2013-02-24  1:46       ` Dave Hansen
2013-02-24  3:37         ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-24 18:24           ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2013-02-24 20:40             ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-24 21:25               ` Dave Hansen
2013-02-24 22:38                 ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-25 17:50                   ` Dave Hansen
2013-02-24  3:58       ` Zheng Liu
2013-02-24  4:04         ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-26  4:21       ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-26 14:06         ` Andrea Righi
2013-02-26 15:39           ` Phillip Susi
2013-02-23 22:58     ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: fadvise: implement POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE Phillip Susi

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