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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Sha Zhengju <handai.szj@gmail.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	anton.vorontsov@linaro.org, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: provide root figures from system totals
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:15:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514043B5.1090205@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFj3OHWm_GjLFwNEE=D69DR-YSF25AZvKTLHpyHq7aYDi12b0g@mail.gmail.com>

(2013/03/13 15:58), Sha Zhengju wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki
> <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> (2013/03/06 19:52), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> On 03/06/2013 02:45 PM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>> (2013/03/06 17:30), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>>> On 03/06/2013 04:27 AM, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
>>>>>> (2013/03/05 22:10), Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>>>>> + case _MEMSWAP: {
>>>>>>> +         struct sysinfo i;
>>>>>>> +         si_swapinfo(&i);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +         return ((memcg_read_root_rss() +
>>>>>>> +         atomic_long_read(&vm_stat[NR_FILE_PAGES])) << PAGE_SHIFT) +
>>>>>>> +         i.totalswap - i.freeswap;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How swapcache is handled ? ...and How kmem works with this calc ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I am ignoring kmem, because we don't account kmem for the root cgroup
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Setting the limit is invalid, and we don't account until the limit is
>>>>> set. Then it will be 0, always.
>>>>>
>>>>> For swapcache, I am hoping that totalswap - freeswap will cover
>>>>> everything swap related. If you think I am wrong, please enlighten me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i.totalswap - i.freeswap = # of used swap entries.
>>>>
>>>> SwapCache can be rss and used swap entry at the same time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, yes, but the rss entries would be accounted for in get_mm_rss(),
>>> won't they ?
>>>
>>> What am I missing ?
>>
>>
>> I think the correct caluculation is
>>
>>    Sum of all RSS + All file caches + (i.total_swap - i.freeswap - # of mapped SwapCache)
>>
>>
>> In the patch, mapped SwapCache is counted as both of rss and swap.
>>
>
> After a quick look, swapcache is counted as file pages and meanwhile
> use a swap entry at the same time(__add_to{delete_from}_swap_cache()).
> Even though, I think we still do not need to exclude swapcache out,
> because it indeed uses two copy of resource: one is swap entry, one is
> cache, so the usage should count both of them in.
>
> What I think it matters is that swapcache may be counted as both file
> pages and rss(if it's a process's anonymous page), which we need to
> subtract # of swapcache to avoid double-counting. But it isn't always
> so: a shmem/tmpfs page may use swapcache and be counted as file pages
> but not a rss, then we can not subtract swapcache... Is there anything
> I lost?
>


Please don't think difficult. All pages for user/caches are counted in
LRU. All swap-entry usage can be cauht by total_swap_pages - nr_swap_pages.
We just need to subtract number of swap-cache which is double counted
as swap-entry and a page in LRU.

NR_ACTIVE_ANON + NR_INACTIVE_ANON + NR_ACTIVE_FILE + NR_INACTIVE_FILE
+ NR_UNEVICTABLE + total_swap_pages - nr_swap_pages - NR_SWAP_CACHE

is the number we whant for memsw.usage_in_bytes.

Thanks,
-Kame




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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-13  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-05 13:10 [PATCH v2 0/5] bypass root memcg charges if no memcgs are possible Glauber Costa
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] memcg: make nocpu_base available for non hotplug Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:04   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-19 11:07   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] memcg: provide root figures from system totals Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:27   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:45       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06 10:52         ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:59           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-13  6:58             ` Sha Zhengju
2013-03-13  9:15               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2013-03-13  9:59                 ` Sha Zhengju
2013-03-14  0:03                   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06 10:50       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-19 12:46   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-19 12:55     ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  7:03       ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:03         ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  8:08           ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:18             ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  8:34               ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:58                 ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  9:30                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-21  6:08                     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-20 16:40             ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-03-20  7:04     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] memcg: make it suck faster Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  0:46   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:38     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-06 10:54       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-13  8:08   ` Sha Zhengju
2013-03-20  7:13     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-19 13:58   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-20  7:00     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-20  8:13       ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] memcg: do not call page_cgroup_init at system_boot Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  1:07   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-06  8:22     ` Glauber Costa
2013-03-19 14:06   ` Michal Hocko
2013-03-05 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] memcg: do not walk all the way to the root for memcg Glauber Costa
2013-03-06  1:08   ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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