From: Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm: remove swapcache page early
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51532A0F.3010402@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1364350932-12853-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>
On 03/26/2013 09:22 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Swap subsystem does lazy swap slot free with expecting the page
> would be swapped out again so we can't avoid unnecessary write.
>
> But the problem in in-memory swap is that it consumes memory space
> until vm_swap_full(ie, used half of all of swap device) condition
> meet. It could be bad if we use multiple swap device, small in-memory swap
> and big storage swap or in-memory swap alone.
>
> This patch changes vm_swap_full logic slightly so it could free
> swap slot early if the backed device is really fast.
Great idea!
> For it, I used SWP_SOLIDSTATE but It might be controversial.
The comment for SWP_SOLIDSTATE is that "blkdev seeks are cheap". Just
because seeks are cheap doesn't mean the read itself is also cheap.
For example, QUEUE_FLAG_NONROT is set for mmc devices, but some of
them can be pretty slow.
> So let's add Ccing Shaohua and Hugh.
> If it's a problem for SSD, I'd like to create new type SWP_INMEMORY
> or something for z* family.
Afaict, setting SWP_SOLIDSTATE depends on characteristics of the
underlying block device (i.e. blk_queue_nonrot()). zram is a block
device but zcache and zswap are not.
Any idea by what criteria SWP_INMEMORY would be set?
Also, frontswap backends (zcache and zswap) are a caching layer on top
of the real swap device, which might actually be rotating media. So
you have the issue of to different characteristics, in-memory caching
on top of rotation media, present in a single swap device.
Thanks,
Seth
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-27 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-27 2:22 [RFC] mm: remove swapcache page early Minchan Kim
2013-03-27 5:03 ` Kyungmin Park
2013-03-27 5:15 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2013-03-27 7:05 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-27 17:19 ` Seth Jennings [this message]
2013-03-28 1:36 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-27 21:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-03-27 22:24 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-27 23:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-03-28 1:18 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-28 1:54 ` Shaohua Li
2013-03-28 17:35 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-28 1:07 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-28 18:19 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-03-29 1:18 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-29 20:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-02 2:04 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-02 5:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2013-04-02 5:56 ` Minchan Kim
2013-03-28 0:36 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-02 13:40 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-07 7:26 ` Simon Jeons
2013-04-08 1:48 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-08 1:51 ` Simon Jeons
[not found] <<1364350932-12853-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>
2013-03-27 21:20 ` Dan Magenheimer
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