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From: Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Cc: Wanpeng Li <liwanp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: gigantic hugetlb page pools shrink supporting
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 16:54:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <515E9154.6050709@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130405081239.GC14882@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Hi Michal,
On 04/05/2013 04:12 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 05-04-13 07:41:23, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 06:17:46PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Thu 04-04-13 17:09:08, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>>>> order >= MAX_ORDER pages are only allocated at boot stage using the
>>>> bootmem allocator with the "hugepages=xxx" option. These pages are never
>>>> free after boot by default since it would be a one-way street(>= MAX_ORDER
>>>> pages cannot be allocated later), but if administrator confirm not to
>>>> use these gigantic pages any more, these pinned pages will waste memory
>>>> since other users can't grab free pages from gigantic hugetlb pool even
>>>> if OOM, it's not flexible.  The patchset add hugetlb gigantic page pools
>>>> shrink supporting. Administrator can enable knob exported in sysctl to
>>>> permit to shrink gigantic hugetlb pool.
>>> I am not sure I see why the new knob is needed.
>>> /sys/kernel/mm/hugepages/hugepages-*/nr_hugepages is root interface so
>>> an additional step to allow writing to the file doesn't make much sense
>>> to me to be honest.
>>>
>>> Support for shrinking gigantic huge pages makes some sense to me but I
>>> would be interested in the real world example. GB pages are usually used
>>> in very specific environments where the amount is usually well known.
>> Gigantic huge pages in hugetlb means h->order >= MAX_ORDER instead of GB
>> pages. ;-)
> Yes, I am aware of that but the question remains the same (and
> unanswered). What is the use case?

As patch description, "if administrator confirm not to use these 
gigantic pages any more, these pinned pages will waste memory since 
other users can't grab free pages from gigantic hugetlb pool even if OOM".

>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-05  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-04  9:09 [PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: gigantic hugetlb page pools shrink supporting Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/hugetlb: introduce new sysctl knob which control gigantic page pools shrinking Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/hugetlb: update_and_free_page gigantic pages awareness Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/hugetlb: enable gigantic hugetlb page pools shrinking Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/hugetlb: use already exist huge_page_order() instead of h->order Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm/hugetlb: remove redundant hugetlb_prefault Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04  9:09 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/hugetlb: use already exist interface huge_page_shift Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04 16:17 ` [PATCH 0/6] mm/hugetlb: gigantic hugetlb page pools shrink supporting Michal Hocko
2013-04-04 16:20   ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-05  1:29     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05  1:29     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04 23:41   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05  8:12     ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-05  8:27       ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05  9:27         ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-05  8:27       ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-05  8:54       ` Simon Jeons [this message]
2013-04-05  9:52         ` Michal Hocko
2013-04-04 23:41   ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04 23:35 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-04 23:35 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11 23:29 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-11 23:29 ` Wanpeng Li
2013-04-12 15:22   ` Andi Kleen
2013-07-15 11:31     ` Wanpeng Li
2013-07-15 11:31     ` Wanpeng Li
2014-08-21 23:37     ` Wanpeng Li
2014-08-22  1:34       ` Zhang Yanfei
2014-08-22  4:04         ` Wanpeng Li
2014-08-22 14:18           ` Andi Kleen

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