From: Ric Mason <ric.masonn@gmail.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@darnok.org>,
Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove compressed copy from zram in-memory
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:36:52 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5163A8F4.7060807@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130409010231.GA3467@blaptop>
Hi Minchan,
On 04/09/2013 09:02 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 02:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 15:01:02 +0900 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Swap subsystem does lazy swap slot free with expecting the page
>>> would be swapped out again so we can avoid unnecessary write.
>> Is that correct? How can it save a write?
> Correct.
>
> The add_to_swap makes the page dirty and we must pageout only if the page is
> dirty. If a anon page is already charged into swapcache, we skip writeout
> the page in shrink_page_list, then just remove the page from swapcache and
> free it by __remove_mapping.
>
> I did received same question multiple time so it would be good idea to
> write down it in vmscan.c somewhere.
>
>>> But the problem in in-memory swap(ex, zram) is that it consumes
>>> memory space until vm_swap_full(ie, used half of all of swap device)
>>> condition meet. It could be bad if we use multiple swap device,
>>> small in-memory swap and big storage swap or in-memory swap alone.
>>>
>>> This patch makes swap subsystem free swap slot as soon as swap-read
>>> is completed and make the swapcache page dirty so the page should
>>> be written out the swap device to reclaim it.
>>> It means we never lose it.
>> >From my reading of the patch, that isn't how it works? It changed
>> end_swap_bio_read() to call zram_slot_free_notify(), which appears to
>> free the underlying compressed page. I have a feeling I'm hopelessly
>> confused.
> You understand right totally.
> Selecting swap slot in my description was totally miss.
> Need to rewrite the description.
free the swap slot and free compress page is the same, isn't it?
>
>>> --- a/mm/page_io.c
>>> +++ b/mm/page_io.c
>>> @@ -20,6 +20,7 @@
>>> #include <linux/buffer_head.h>
>>> #include <linux/writeback.h>
>>> #include <linux/frontswap.h>
>>> +#include <linux/blkdev.h>
>>> #include <asm/pgtable.h>
>>>
>>> static struct bio *get_swap_bio(gfp_t gfp_flags,
>>> @@ -81,8 +82,30 @@ void end_swap_bio_read(struct bio *bio, int err)
>>> iminor(bio->bi_bdev->bd_inode),
>>> (unsigned long long)bio->bi_sector);
>>> } else {
>>> + /*
>>> + * There is no reason to keep both uncompressed data and
>>> + * compressed data in memory.
>>> + */
>>> + struct swap_info_struct *sis;
>>> +
>>> SetPageUptodate(page);
>>> + sis = page_swap_info(page);
>>> + if (sis->flags & SWP_BLKDEV) {
>>> + struct gendisk *disk = sis->bdev->bd_disk;
>>> + if (disk->fops->swap_slot_free_notify) {
>>> + swp_entry_t entry;
>>> + unsigned long offset;
>>> +
>>> + entry.val = page_private(page);
>>> + offset = swp_offset(entry);
>>> +
>>> + SetPageDirty(page);
>>> + disk->fops->swap_slot_free_notify(sis->bdev,
>>> + offset);
>>> + }
>>> + }
>>> }
>>> +
>>> unlock_page(page);
>>> bio_put(bio);
>> The new code is wasted space if CONFIG_BLOCK=n, yes?
> CONFIG_SWAP is already dependent on CONFIG_BLOCK.
>
>> Also, what's up with the SWP_BLKDEV test? zram doesn't support
>> SWP_FILE? Why on earth not?
>>
>> Putting swap_slot_free_notify() into block_device_operations seems
>> rather wrong. It precludes zram-over-swapfiles for all time and means
>> that other subsystems cannot get notifications for swap slot freeing
>> for swapfile-backed swap.
> Zram is just pseudo-block device so anyone can format it with any FSes
> and swapon a file. In such case, he can't get a benefit from
> swap_slot_free_notify. But I think it's not a severe problem because
> there is no reason to use a file-swap on zram. If anyone want to use it,
> I'd like to know the reason. If it's reasonable, we have to rethink a
> wheel and it's another story, IMHO.
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-09 5:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-08 6:01 [PATCH] mm: remove compressed copy from zram in-memory Minchan Kim
2013-04-08 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
2013-04-09 1:02 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-09 5:36 ` Ric Mason [this message]
2013-04-09 23:40 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-09 19:54 ` Andrew Morton
2013-04-10 0:16 ` Minchan Kim
[not found] <<1365400862-9041-1-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>
2013-04-08 16:32 ` zsmalloc defrag (Was: [PATCH] mm: remove compressed copy from zram in-memory) Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-09 1:27 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-09 1:36 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-09 20:37 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-10 0:54 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-11 17:53 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-09 20:52 ` Seth Jennings
2013-04-10 0:58 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-11 17:56 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-11 17:30 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-09 20:25 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-10 0:50 ` Minchan Kim
2013-04-10 1:07 ` Ric Mason
2013-04-11 17:46 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-10 1:03 ` Ric Mason
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