From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/31] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 17:35:50 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51890336.2080509@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130430153707.GD11497@suse.de>
On 04/30/2013 07:37 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 05:31:32PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 04/30/2013 05:22 PM, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 03:18:58AM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>> In very low free kernel memory situations, it may be the case that we
>>>> have less objects to free than our initial batch size. If this is the
>>>> case, it is better to shrink those, and open space for the new workload
>>>> then to keep them and fail the new allocations.
>>>>
>>>> More specifically, this happens because we encode this in a loop with
>>>> the condition: "while (total_scan >= batch_size)". So if we are in such
>>>> a case, we'll not even enter the loop.
>>>>
>>>> This patch modifies turns it into a do () while {} loop, that will
>>>> guarantee that we scan it at least once, while keeping the behaviour
>>>> exactly the same for the cases in which total_scan > batch_size.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Carlos Maiolino <cmaiolino@redhat.com>
>>>> CC: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
>>>> CC: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
>>>
>>> There are two cases where this *might* cause a problem and worth keeping
>>> an eye out for.
>>>
>>
>> Any test case that you envision that could help bringing those issues
>> forward should they exist ? (aside from getting it into upstream trees
>> early?)
>>
>
> hmm.
>
> fsmark multi-threaded in a small-memory machine with a small number of
> very large files greater than the size of physical memory might trigger
> it. There should be a small number of inodes active so less than the 128
> that would have been ignored before the patch. As the files are larger
> than memory, kswapd will be awake and calling shrinkers so if the
> shrinker is really discarding active inodes then the performance will
> degrade.
>
FYI: The weird behavior you found on benchmarks is due to this patch.
The problem is twofold:
first, by always scanning we fail to differentiate from the 0 condition,
which means skip it. We should have at least 1 object in the counter to
scan.
second, nr_to_scan continues being a batch. So when count returns, say,
3 objects, the shrinker will still try to free, say, 128 objects. And in
some situations, it might very well succeed.
I have already fixed this, and as soon as I finish merging all your
suggestions I will send an updated version.
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-26 23:18 [PATCH v4 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 01/31] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:03 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 02/31] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:22 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 13:31 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-07 13:35 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-04-26 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 03/31] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 13:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 04/31] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:01 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 05/31] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:14 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 06/31] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 15:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:32 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 07/31] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 14:49 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 08/31] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:18 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 16:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 09/31] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 15:46 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-07 13:47 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 10/31] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:04 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 16:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 11/31] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:33 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 21:44 ` Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 12/31] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 16:35 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 13/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 17:39 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 14/31] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 15/31] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 16/31] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 17/31] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 21:53 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-30 22:00 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-05-02 9:37 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-02 13:37 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-01 15:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-05-02 9:31 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 18/31] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to " Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 19/31] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 20/31] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 21:57 ` Mel Gorman
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 21/31] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 22/31] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 23/31] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 24/31] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 25/31] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 26/31] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 27/31] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 28/31] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 29/31] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 30/31] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-04-26 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 31/31] memcg: debugging facility to access dangling memcgs Glauber Costa
2013-04-30 22:47 ` [PATCH v4 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Mel Gorman
2013-05-01 9:05 ` Mel Gorman
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