From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from psmtp.com (na3sys010amx178.postini.com [74.125.245.178]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBFCD6B0032 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f46.google.com with SMTP id i57so2571268yha.5 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51ED9CC2.8040604@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:57:38 -0400 From: KOSAKI Motohiro MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/hotplug, x86: Disable ARCH_MEMORY_PROBE by default References: <1374256068-26016-1-git-send-email-toshi.kani@hp.com> <20130722083721.GC25976@gmail.com> <1374513120.16322.21.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <1374513120.16322.21.camel@misato.fc.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Toshi Kani Cc: Ingo Molnar , akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, dave@sr71.net, kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com, vasilis.liaskovitis@profitbricks.com (7/22/13 1:12 PM), Toshi Kani wrote: > On Mon, 2013-07-22 at 10:37 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: >> * Toshi Kani wrote: >> >>> CONFIG_ARCH_MEMORY_PROBE enables /sys/devices/system/memory/probe >>> interface, which allows a given memory address to be hot-added as >>> follows. (See Documentation/memory-hotplug.txt for more detail.) >>> >>> # echo start_address_of_new_memory > /sys/devices/system/memory/probe >>> >>> This probe interface is required on powerpc. On x86, however, ACPI >>> notifies a memory hotplug event to the kernel, which performs its >>> hotplug operation as the result. Therefore, regular users do not need >>> this interface on x86. This probe interface is also error-prone and >>> misleading that the kernel blindly adds a given memory address without >>> checking if the memory is present on the system; no probing is done >>> despite of its name. The kernel crashes when a user requests to online >>> a memory block that is not present on the system. This interface is >>> currently used for testing as it can fake a hotplug event. >>> >>> This patch disables CONFIG_ARCH_MEMORY_PROBE by default on x86, adds >>> its Kconfig menu entry on x86, and clarifies its use in Documentation/ >>> memory-hotplug.txt. >> >> Could we please also fix it to never crash the kernel, even if stupid >> ranges are provided? > > Yes, this probe interface can be enhanced to verify the firmware > information before adding a given memory address. However, such change > would interfere its test use of "fake" hotplug, which is only the known > use-case of this interface on x86. > > In order to verify if a given memory address is enabled at run-time (as > opposed to boot-time), we need to check with ACPI memory device objects > on x86. However, system vendors tend to not implement memory device > objects unless their systems support memory hotplug. Dave Hansen is > using this interface for his testing as a way to fake a hotplug event on > a system that does not support memory hotplug. One of possible option is to return EINVAL when system has real hotplug device. I mean this interface is only useful when system don't have proper hardware feature and doesn't work correctly hardware property and this interface command are not consistent. Dave, What do you think? -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: email@kvack.org