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From: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:41:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52534692.7010400@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52534331.2060402@zytor.com>

On 10/07/2013 04:26 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 10/07/2013 04:14 PM, John Stultz wrote:
>>> I see from the change history of the patch that this was an madvise() at
>>> some point, but was changed into a separate system call at some point,
>>> does anyone remember why that was?  A quick look through my LKML
>>> archives doesn't really make it clear.
>> The reason we can't use madvise, is that to properly handle error cases
>> and report the pruge state, we need an extra argument.
>>
>> In much earlier versions, we just returned an error when setting
>> NONVOLATILE if the data was purged. However, since we have to possibly
>> do allocations when marking a range as non-volatile, we needed a way to
>> properly handle that allocation failing. We can't just return ENOMEM, as
>> we may have already marked purged memory as non-volatile.
>>
>> Thus, that's why with vrange, we return the number of bytes modified,
>> along with the purge state. That way, if an error does occur we can
>> return the purge state of the bytes successfully modified, and only
>> return an error if nothing was changed, much like when a write fails.
>>
> I am not clear at all what the "purge state" is in this case.


You mark a chunk of memory as volatile, then at some point later, mark
its as non-volatile. The purge state tells you if the memory is still
there, or if we threw it out due to memory pressure. This lets the
application regnerate the purged data before continuing on.

thanks
-john

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-07 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-03  0:51 [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 01/14] vrange: Add basic data structure and functions John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 02/14] vrange: Add vrange support to mm_structs John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] vrange: Clear volatility on new mmaps John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 04/14] vrange: Add support for volatile ranges on file mappings John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call John Stultz
2013-10-07 22:56   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:14     ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:41         ` John Stultz [this message]
2013-10-07 23:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:54             ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:59               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08  0:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  0:18                   ` John Stultz
2013-10-08  0:34                     ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  0:38                       ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  1:24                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08  2:08                     ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  2:51                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08  3:07                         ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  4:35                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08  7:12                             ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  7:17                               ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  0:03       ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08  0:07         ` John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 06/14] vrange: Add basic functions to purge volatile pages John Stultz
2013-10-03 10:22   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 07/14] vrange: Purge volatile pages when memory is tight John Stultz
2013-10-08  3:27   ` Zhan Jianyu
2013-10-08 16:22     ` John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 08/14] vrange: Send SIGBUS when user try to access purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 09/14] vrange: Add vrange LRU list for purging John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 10/14] vrange: Add core shrinking logic for swapless system John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 11/14] vrange: Purging vrange-anon pages from shrinker John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 12/14] vrange: Support background purging for vrange-file John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 13/14] vrange: Allocate vroot dynamically John Stultz
2013-10-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 14/14] vrange: Add vmstat counter about purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03 23:56 ` [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz

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