From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>,
Matt Helsley <matt.helsley@gmail.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Lei Li <lilei@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Leonardo Garcia <lagarcia@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Simon Jin <simonjin@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] vmpslice support for zero-copy gifting of pages
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 16:34:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5277BE6D.1040002@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1382715984-10558-1-git-send-email-rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 10/25/2013 05:46 PM, Robert Jennings wrote:
> From: Robert C Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>
> This patch set would add the ability to move anonymous user pages from one
> process to another through vmsplice without copying data. Moving pages
> rather than copying is implemented for a narrow case in this RFC to meet
> the needs of QEMU's usage (below).
>
> Among the restrictions the source address and destination addresses must
> be page aligned, the size argument must be a multiple of page size,
> and by the time the reader calls vmsplice, the page must no longer be
> mapped in the source. If a move is not possible the code transparently
> falls back to copying data.
>
> This comes from work in QEMU[1] to migrate a VM from one QEMU instance
> to another with minimal down-time for the VM. This would allow for an
> update of the QEMU executable under the VM.
Hello,
since this seems somewhat narrow use case for a syscall change, it would
be helpful if you included a larger discussion of considered existing
alternatives, with benchmark results justifying the changed syscall. E.g.:
- Cross Memory Attach comes to mind as one alternative to vmsplice.
Although it does perform a single copy, there are results suggesting
zero-copy doesn't necessarily add that much gain:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=130105930902915&w=2
- Would it be possible for QEMU to use shared memory to begin with?
Since you are already restricting this to page-aligned regions.
Ideally the benchmark results would also include the THP support when
complete.
Thanks,
Vlastimil
> New flag usage
> This introduces use of the SPLICE_F_MOVE flag for vmsplice, previously
> unused. Proposed usage is as follows:
>
> Writer gifts pages to pipe, can not access original contents after gift:
> vmsplice(fd, iov, nr_segs, (SPLICE_F_GIFT | SPLICE_F_MOVE);
> Reader asks kernel to move pages from pipe to memory described by iovec:
> vmsplice(fd, iov, nr_segs, SPLICE_F_MOVE);
>
> Moving pages rather than copying is implemented for a narrow case in
> this RFC to meet the needs of QEMU's usage. If a move is not possible
> the code transparently falls back to copying data.
>
> For older kernels the SPLICE_F_MOVE would be ignored and a copy would occur.
>
> [1] QEMU localhost live migration:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-10/msg02787.html
>
> Changes from V1:
> - Cleanup zap coalescing in splice_to_pipe for readability
> - Field added to struct partial_page in v1 was unnecessary, using
> private field instead.
> - Read-side code in pipe_to_user pulled out into a new function
> - Improved documentation of read-side flipping code
> - Fixed locking issue in read-size flipping code found by sparse
> - Updated vmsplice comments for vmsplice_to_user(),
> vmsplice_to_pipe, and vmsplice syscall
> _______________________________________________________
>
> vmsplice: unmap gifted pages for recipient
> vmsplice: Add limited zero copy to vmsplice
>
> fs/splice.c | 159 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> 1 file changed, 150 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-25 15:46 [PATCH v2 0/2] vmpslice support for zero-copy gifting of pages Robert Jennings
2013-10-25 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] vmsplice: unmap gifted pages for recipient Robert Jennings
2013-11-04 16:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2013-10-25 15:46 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] vmsplice: Add limited zero copy to vmsplice Robert Jennings
2013-11-04 15:34 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
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