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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Jason Evans <je@fb.com>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 00/16] Volatile Ranges v10
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 07:25:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F1065B.8040305@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140204045821.GE3481@bbox>

On 02/03/2014 08:58 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Of course, every thread could do madvise(MADV_FREE) in parallel because
> VM in Linux doesn't need write-side semaphore but read-side semaphore.
> Additionally, page faulting also needs read-side semaphore so
> page faulting, madvise(MADV_FREE) in threads could be done in parallel
> without any scalability issue if they don't overlap same virtual addresses
> within 4M range because they need a page table lock but it's very
> unlikely in allocator, IMO.

In practice, things holding mmap_sem for read don't scale well, either,
especially when their hold times are short.  It's _better_ than if they
took it for write, but still doesn't scale well.  Check out the red
(threads) line in "Anonymous memory page fault" for instance:

> https://www.sr71.net/~dave/intel/willitscale/systems/bigbox/3.13.0-slub-08988-gd891ea2-dirty/foo.html


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-04 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-02  7:12 [PATCH v10 00/16] Volatile Ranges v10 Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 01/16] vrange: Add vrange support to mm_structs Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 02/16] vrange: Clear volatility on new mmaps Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 03/16] vrange: Add support for volatile ranges on file mappings Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 04/16] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 05/16] vrange: Add basic functions to purge volatile pages Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 06/16] vrange: introduce fake VM_VRANGE flag Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 07/16] vrange: Purge volatile pages when memory is tight Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 08/16] vrange: Send SIGBUS when user try to access purged page Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 09/16] vrange: Add core shrinking logic for swapless system Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 10/16] vrange: Purging vrange-anon pages from shrinker Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 11/16] vrange: support shmem_purge_page Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 12/16] vrange: Support background purging for vrange-file Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 13/16] vrange: Allocate vroot dynamically Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 14/16] vrange: Change purged with hint Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 15/16] vrange: Prevent unnecessary scanning Minchan Kim
2014-01-02  7:12 ` [PATCH v10 16/16] vrange: Add vmstat counter about purged page Minchan Kim
2014-01-27 22:23 ` [PATCH v10 00/16] Volatile Ranges v10 KOSAKI Motohiro
2014-01-27 22:43   ` John Stultz
2014-01-28  0:12   ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-28  0:42     ` John Stultz
2014-01-28  1:02       ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-28  1:09       ` Taras Glek
2014-01-28  1:23         ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-29  0:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-01-29  1:43   ` John Stultz
2014-01-29 18:30     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-01-31  1:27       ` John Stultz
2014-01-31  1:44         ` Jason Evans
2014-02-04  1:31           ` Minchan Kim
2014-02-04  3:08             ` Jason Evans
2014-02-04  4:58               ` Minchan Kim
2014-02-04 15:25                 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2014-01-31  6:15         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-01-29  5:11   ` Minchan Kim
2014-01-31 16:49     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-03 14:58       ` Jan Kara
2014-02-03 18:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2014-02-04  1:09       ` Minchan Kim

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