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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>
Cc: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Hillf Danton <dhillf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:41:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5339B6F4.9000809@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1396286773.2507.11.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On 03/31/2014 10:26 AM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 09:27 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 12/17/2013 10:53 PM, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
>>> * NOTE for v3
>>> - Updating patchset is so late because of other works, not issue from
>>> this patchset.
>>
>> I've got some folks with a couple TB of RAM seeing long startup times
>> with $LARGE_DATABASE_PRODUCT.  It looks to be contention on
>> hugetlb_instantiation_mutex because everyone is trying to zero hugepages
>> under that lock in parallel.  Just removing the lock sped things up
>> quite a bit.
> 
> Welcome to my world. Regarding the instantiation mutex, it is addressed,
> see commit c999c05ff595 in -next. 

Cool stuff.  That does seem to fix my parallel-fault hugetlbfs
microbenchmark.  I'll recommend that the $DATABASE folks check it as well.

> As for the clear page overhead, I brought this up in lsfmm last week,
> proposing some daemon to clear pages when we have idle cpu... but didn't
> get much positive feedback. Basically (i) not worth the additional
> complexity and (ii) can trigger different application startup times,
> which seems to be something negative. I do have a patch that implements
> huge_clear_page with non-temporal hinting but I didn't see much
> difference on my environment, would you want to give it a try?

I'd just be happy to see it happen outside of the locks.  As it stands
now, I have 1 CPU zeroing a huge page, and 159 sitting there sleeping
waiting for it to release the hugetlb_instantiation_mutex.  That's just
nonsense.  I don't think making them non-temporal will fundamentally
help that.  We need them parallelized.  According to ftrace, a
hugetlb_fault() takes ~700us.  Literally 99% of that is zeroing the page.


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      reply	other threads:[~2014-03-31 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-18  6:53 [PATCH v3 00/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] mm, hugetlb: unify region structure handling Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21  9:04   ` David Gibson
2014-01-07  2:37   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] mm, hugetlb: region manipulation functions take resv_map rather list_head Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21 13:43   ` David Gibson
2014-01-07  2:39   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] mm, hugetlb: protect region tracking via newly introduced resv_map lock Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-21 13:58   ` David Gibson
2013-12-23  1:05     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-24 12:00       ` David Gibson
2014-01-06  0:12         ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07  2:39   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] mm, hugetlb: remove resv_map_put() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] mm, hugetlb: make vma_resv_map() works for all mapping type Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] mm, hugetlb: remove vma_has_reserves() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] mm, hugetlb: mm, hugetlb: unify chg and avoid_reserve to use_reserve Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] mm, hugetlb: call vma_needs_reservation before entering alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a check for return value of alloc_huge_page() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] mm, hugetlb: move down outside_reserve check Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] mm, hugetlb: move up anon_vma_prepare() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] mm, hugetlb: clean-up error handling in hugetlb_cow() Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-18  6:53 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] mm, hugetlb: retry if failed to allocate and there is concurrent user Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20  1:02   ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-20  1:58     ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20  2:15       ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-20  5:00         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20  2:31     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-20  4:47       ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-20 14:01     ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-21  6:48       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-12-23  0:44         ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-12-23  2:11           ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-03 19:55             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-06  0:19               ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-06 12:19                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-07  1:57                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-01-07  2:36                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15  3:08                       ` David Rientjes
2014-01-15  4:37                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15  4:56                           ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-15 20:47                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-01-15 20:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2013-12-18  6:54 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] mm, hugetlb: remove a hugetlb_instantiation_mutex Joonsoo Kim
2014-03-31 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] " Dave Hansen
2014-03-31 17:26   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-03-31 18:41     ` Dave Hansen [this message]

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