[PATCH V2 0/2] FAULT_AROUND_ORDER patchset performance data for powerpc

[PATCH V2 0/2] FAULT_AROUND_ORDER patchset performance data for powerpc

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

Kirill A. Shutemov with faultaround patchset introduced
vm_ops->map_pages() for mapping easy accessible pages around
fault address in hope to reduce number of minor page faults.

This patchset creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
performance data for that architecture. First patch also adds
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element for X86. Second patch list
out the performance numbers for powerpc (platform pseries) and
adds FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element for powerpc.

V2 Changes:
  Created Kconfig parameter for FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
  Added check in do_read_fault to handle FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value of 0
  Made changes in commit messages.

Madhavan Srinivasan (2):
  mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/
  mm: add FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig paramater for powerpc

 arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig |    5 +++++
 arch/x86/Kconfig                       |    4 ++++
 include/linux/mm.h                     |    9 +++++++++
 mm/memory.c                            |   12 +++++-------
 4 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

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[PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

Kirill A. Shutemov with faultaround patchset introduced
vm_ops->map_pages() for mapping easy accessible pages around
fault address in hope to reduce number of minor page faults.

This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.

Signed-off-by: Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
---
 arch/x86/Kconfig   |    4 ++++
 include/linux/mm.h |    9 +++++++++
 mm/memory.c        |   12 +++++-------
 3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
index 9c0a657..5833f22 100644
--- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
@@ -1177,6 +1177,10 @@ config DIRECT_GBPAGES
 	  support it. This can improve the kernel's performance a tiny bit by
 	  reducing TLB pressure. If in doubt, say "Y".
 
+config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
+	int
+	default "4"
+
 # Common NUMA Features
 config NUMA
 	bool "Numa Memory Allocation and Scheduler Support"
diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
index 0bd4359..b93c1c3 100644
--- a/include/linux/mm.h
+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
@@ -26,6 +26,15 @@ struct file_ra_state;
 struct user_struct;
 struct writeback_control;
 
+/*
+ * Fault around order is a control knob to decide the fault around pages.
+ * Default value is set to 0UL (disabled), but the arch can override it as
+ * desired.
+ */
+#ifndef CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
+#define CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 0
+#endif
+
 #ifndef CONFIG_NEED_MULTIPLE_NODES	/* Don't use mapnrs, do it properly */
 extern unsigned long max_mapnr;
 
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index b02c584..22a4a89 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -3358,10 +3358,8 @@ void do_set_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
 	update_mmu_cache(vma, address, pte);
 }
 
-#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 4
-
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
-static unsigned int fault_around_order = FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
+static unsigned int fault_around_order = CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
 
 static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
 {
@@ -3371,7 +3369,7 @@ static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
 
 static int fault_around_order_set(void *data, u64 val)
 {
-	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
+	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
 	if (1UL << val > PTRS_PER_PTE)
 		return -EINVAL;
 	fault_around_order = val;
@@ -3406,14 +3404,14 @@ static inline unsigned long fault_around_pages(void)
 {
 	unsigned long nr_pages;
 
-	nr_pages = 1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
+	nr_pages = 1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
 	BUILD_BUG_ON(nr_pages > PTRS_PER_PTE);
 	return nr_pages;
 }
 
 static inline unsigned long fault_around_mask(void)
 {
-	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
+	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
 }
 #endif
 
@@ -3471,7 +3469,7 @@ static int do_read_fault(struct mm_struct *mm, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
 	 * if page by the offset is not ready to be mapped (cold cache or
 	 * something).
 	 */
-	if (vma->vm_ops->map_pages) {
+	if ((vma->vm_ops->map_pages) && (fault_around_pages() > 1)) {
 		pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, address, &ptl);
 		do_fault_around(vma, address, pte, pgoff, flags);
 		if (!pte_same(*pte, orig_pte))
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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Kirill A. Shutemov]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:57:14AM +0530, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
> Kirill A. Shutemov with faultaround patchset introduced
> vm_ops->map_pages() for mapping easy accessible pages around
> fault address in hope to reduce number of minor page faults.
> 
> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/Kconfig   |    4 ++++
>  include/linux/mm.h |    9 +++++++++
>  mm/memory.c        |   12 +++++-------
>  3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> index 9c0a657..5833f22 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> @@ -1177,6 +1177,10 @@ config DIRECT_GBPAGES
>  	  support it. This can improve the kernel's performance a tiny bit by
>  	  reducing TLB pressure. If in doubt, say "Y".
>  
> +config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> +	int
> +	default "4"
> +
>  # Common NUMA Features
>  config NUMA
>  	bool "Numa Memory Allocation and Scheduler Support"
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 0bd4359..b93c1c3 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -26,6 +26,15 @@ struct file_ra_state;
>  struct user_struct;
>  struct writeback_control;
>  
> +/*
> + * Fault around order is a control knob to decide the fault around pages.
> + * Default value is set to 0UL (disabled), but the arch can override it as
> + * desired.
> + */
> +#ifndef CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> +#define CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 0
> +#endif
> +

I don't think it should be in header file: nobody except mm/memory.c cares.
Just put it instead '#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER'.

>  #ifndef CONFIG_NEED_MULTIPLE_NODES	/* Don't use mapnrs, do it properly */
>  extern unsigned long max_mapnr;
>  
> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> index b02c584..22a4a89 100644
> --- a/mm/memory.c
> +++ b/mm/memory.c
> @@ -3358,10 +3358,8 @@ void do_set_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
>  	update_mmu_cache(vma, address, pte);
>  }
>  
> -#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 4
> -
>  #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
> -static unsigned int fault_around_order = FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
> +static unsigned int fault_around_order = CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>  
>  static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
>  {
> @@ -3371,7 +3369,7 @@ static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
>  
>  static int fault_around_order_set(void *data, u64 val)
>  {
> -	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
> +	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
>  	if (1UL << val > PTRS_PER_PTE)
>  		return -EINVAL;
>  	fault_around_order = val;
> @@ -3406,14 +3404,14 @@ static inline unsigned long fault_around_pages(void)
>  {
>  	unsigned long nr_pages;
>  
> -	nr_pages = 1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
> +	nr_pages = 1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>  	BUILD_BUG_ON(nr_pages > PTRS_PER_PTE);
>  	return nr_pages;
>  }
>  
>  static inline unsigned long fault_around_mask(void)
>  {
> -	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
> +	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
>  }
>  #endif
>  
> @@ -3471,7 +3469,7 @@ static int do_read_fault(struct mm_struct *mm, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  	 * if page by the offset is not ready to be mapped (cold cache or
>  	 * something).
>  	 */
> -	if (vma->vm_ops->map_pages) {
> +	if ((vma->vm_ops->map_pages) && (fault_around_pages() > 1)) {

	if (vma->vm_ops->map_pages && fault_around_pages()) {

>  		pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, address, &ptl);
>  		do_fault_around(vma, address, pte, pgoff, flags);
>  		if (!pte_same(*pte, orig_pte))
> -- 
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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

On Friday 04 April 2014 06:47 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:57:14AM +0530, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>> Kirill A. Shutemov with faultaround patchset introduced
>> vm_ops->map_pages() for mapping easy accessible pages around
>> fault address in hope to reduce number of minor page faults.
>>
>> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
>> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
>> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
>> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>  arch/x86/Kconfig   |    4 ++++
>>  include/linux/mm.h |    9 +++++++++
>>  mm/memory.c        |   12 +++++-------
>>  3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> index 9c0a657..5833f22 100644
>> --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
>> @@ -1177,6 +1177,10 @@ config DIRECT_GBPAGES
>>  	  support it. This can improve the kernel's performance a tiny bit by
>>  	  reducing TLB pressure. If in doubt, say "Y".
>>  
>> +config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> +	int
>> +	default "4"
>> +
>>  # Common NUMA Features
>>  config NUMA
>>  	bool "Numa Memory Allocation and Scheduler Support"
>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
>> index 0bd4359..b93c1c3 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
>> @@ -26,6 +26,15 @@ struct file_ra_state;
>>  struct user_struct;
>>  struct writeback_control;
>>  
>> +/*
>> + * Fault around order is a control knob to decide the fault around pages.
>> + * Default value is set to 0UL (disabled), but the arch can override it as
>> + * desired.
>> + */
>> +#ifndef CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> +#define CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 0
>> +#endif
>> +
> 
> I don't think it should be in header file: nobody except mm/memory.c cares.
> Just put it instead '#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER'.
> 

Ok. Will do this change.

>>  #ifndef CONFIG_NEED_MULTIPLE_NODES	/* Don't use mapnrs, do it properly */
>>  extern unsigned long max_mapnr;
>>  
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index b02c584..22a4a89 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -3358,10 +3358,8 @@ void do_set_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
>>  	update_mmu_cache(vma, address, pte);
>>  }
>>  
>> -#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 4
>> -
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
>> -static unsigned int fault_around_order = FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>> +static unsigned int fault_around_order = CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>>  
>>  static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
>>  {
>> @@ -3371,7 +3369,7 @@ static int fault_around_order_get(void *data, u64 *val)
>>  
>>  static int fault_around_order_set(void *data, u64 val)
>>  {
>> -	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
>> +	BUILD_BUG_ON((1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER) > PTRS_PER_PTE);
>>  	if (1UL << val > PTRS_PER_PTE)
>>  		return -EINVAL;
>>  	fault_around_order = val;
>> @@ -3406,14 +3404,14 @@ static inline unsigned long fault_around_pages(void)
>>  {
>>  	unsigned long nr_pages;
>>  
>> -	nr_pages = 1UL << FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>> +	nr_pages = 1UL << CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;
>>  	BUILD_BUG_ON(nr_pages > PTRS_PER_PTE);
>>  	return nr_pages;
>>  }
>>  
>>  static inline unsigned long fault_around_mask(void)
>>  {
>> -	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
>> +	return ~((1UL << (PAGE_SHIFT + CONFIG_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER)) - 1);
>>  }
>>  #endif
>>  
>> @@ -3471,7 +3469,7 @@ static int do_read_fault(struct mm_struct *mm, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>  	 * if page by the offset is not ready to be mapped (cold cache or
>>  	 * something).
>>  	 */
>> -	if (vma->vm_ops->map_pages) {
>> +	if ((vma->vm_ops->map_pages) && (fault_around_pages() > 1)) {
> 
> 	if (vma->vm_ops->map_pages && fault_around_pages()) {
> 
For a fault around value of 0, fault_around_pages() will return 1 and
that is reason for checking it greater than 1. Also, using debug fs,
fault around value can be zeroed.

With regards
Maddy
>>  		pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, pmd, address, &ptl);
>>  		do_fault_around(vma, address, pte, pgoff, flags);
>>  		if (!pte_same(*pte, orig_pte))
>> -- 
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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Dave Hansen]

On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.

Please don't do it this way.

In mm/Kconfig, put

	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
		int
		default 1234 if POWERPC
		default 4

The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
you only put it in one place, and folks only have to care if they want
to change the default to be something other than 4.

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[David Miller]

From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:18:43 -0700

> On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
>> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
>> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
>> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
> 
> Please don't do it this way.
> 
> In mm/Kconfig, put
> 
> 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 		int
> 		default 1234 if POWERPC
> 		default 4
> 
> The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
> this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
> you only put it in one place, and folks only have to care if they want
> to change the default to be something other than 4.

It looks more like it's necessary only to change the default, not
to enable it.  Unless I read his patch wrong...

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

On Friday 04 April 2014 11:20 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 09:18:43 -0700
> 
>> On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>>> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>>> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
>>> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
>>> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
>>> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
>>
>> Please don't do it this way.
>>
>> In mm/Kconfig, put
>>
>> 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> 		int
>> 		default 1234 if POWERPC
>> 		default 4
>>
>> The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
>> this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
>> you only put it in one place, and folks only have to care if they want
>> to change the default to be something other than 4.
> 
> It looks more like it's necessary only to change the default, not
> to enable it.  Unless I read his patch wrong...
> 
Yes. With current patch, you only need to change the default by which
you enable it.

With regards
Maddy
> 

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 09:18 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
> > This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> > to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
> > to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
> > performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
> > FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
> 
> Please don't do it this way.
> 
> In mm/Kconfig, put
> 
> 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 		int
> 		default 1234 if POWERPC
> 		default 4
> 
> The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
> this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
> you only put it in one place, and folks only have to care if they want
> to change the default to be something other than 4.

Also does it have to be a constant ? Maddy here tested on our POWER
servers. The "Sweet spot" value might be VERY different on an embedded
chip or even on a future generation of server chip.

Cheers,
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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

On Friday 04 April 2014 09:48 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
>> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
>> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
>> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
> 
> Please don't do it this way.
> 
> In mm/Kconfig, put
> 
> 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 		int
> 		default 1234 if POWERPC
> 		default 4
> 
> The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
> this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,

I though about it and decided not to do this way because, in future,
sub platforms of the architecture may decide to change the values. Also,
adding an if line for each architecture with different sub platforms
oring to it will look messy.

With regards
Maddy

> you only put it in one place, and folks only have to care if they want
> to change the default to be something other than 4.
> 

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Peter Zijlstra]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 07:02:02AM +0530, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
> On Friday 04 April 2014 09:48 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 04/03/2014 11:27 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
> >> This patch creates infrastructure to move the FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> >> to arch/ using Kconfig. This will enable architecture maintainers
> >> to decide on suitable FAULT_AROUND_ORDER value based on
> >> performance data for that architecture. Patch also adds
> >> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig element in arch/X86.
> > 
> > Please don't do it this way.
> > 
> > In mm/Kconfig, put
> > 
> > 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> > 		int
> > 		default 1234 if POWERPC
> > 		default 4
> > 
> > The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
> > this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
> 
> I though about it and decided not to do this way because, in future,
> sub platforms of the architecture may decide to change the values. Also,
> adding an if line for each architecture with different sub platforms
> oring to it will look messy.

This still misses out on Ben's objection that its impossible to get this
right at compile time for many kernels, since they can boot and run on
many different subarchs.

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Dave Hansen]

On 04/09/2014 01:20 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> This still misses out on Ben's objection that its impossible to get this
> right at compile time for many kernels, since they can boot and run on
> many different subarchs.

Completely agree.  The Kconfig-time stuff should probably just be a knob
to turn it off completely, if anything.

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

On Wednesday 09 April 2014 09:18 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 04/09/2014 01:20 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> This still misses out on Ben's objection that its impossible to get this
>> right at compile time for many kernels, since they can boot and run on
>> many different subarchs.
> 
> Completely agree.  The Kconfig-time stuff should probably just be a knob
> to turn it off completely, if anything.
> 

ok. Here is my thought. So to address Ben's concern, it would be better
to have this as a variable with a default value (and the platform can
override ride it). And a mm/Kconfig to disable it?
Kindly let me know whether this will work.

Thanks for review comments.
With regards
Maddy

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Dave Hansen]

On 04/08/2014 06:32 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>> > In mm/Kconfig, put
>> > 
>> > 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>> > 		int
>> > 		default 1234 if POWERPC
>> > 		default 4
>> > 
>> > The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
>> > this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
> I though about it and decided not to do this way because, in future,
> sub platforms of the architecture may decide to change the values. Also,
> adding an if line for each architecture with different sub platforms
> oring to it will look messy.

I'm not sure why I'm trying here any more.  You do seem quite content to
add as much cruft to ppc and every other architecture as possible.  If
your theoretical scenario pops up, you simply do this in ppc:

config ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
	int
	default 999
	default 888 if OTHER_SILLY_POWERPC_SUBARCH

But *ONLY* in the architectures that care about doing that stuff.  You
leave every other architecture on the planet alone.  Then, in mm/Kconfig:

config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
	int
	default ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER if ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
	default 4

Your way still requires going and individually touching every single
architecture's Kconfig that wants to enable fault around.  That's not an
acceptable solution.

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Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] mm: move FAULT_AROUND_ORDER to arch/

[Rusty Russell]

Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> writes:
> On 04/08/2014 06:32 PM, Madhavan Srinivasan wrote:
>>> > In mm/Kconfig, put
>>> > 
>>> > 	config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
>>> > 		int
>>> > 		default 1234 if POWERPC
>>> > 		default 4
>>> > 
>>> > The way you have it now, every single architecture that needs to enable
>>> > this has to go put that in their Kconfig.  That's madness.  This way,
>> I though about it and decided not to do this way because, in future,
>> sub platforms of the architecture may decide to change the values. Also,
>> adding an if line for each architecture with different sub platforms
>> oring to it will look messy.
>
> I'm not sure why I'm trying here any more.  You do seem quite content to
> add as much cruft to ppc and every other architecture as possible.  If
> your theoretical scenario pops up, you simply do this in ppc:
>
> config ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 	int
> 	default 999
> 	default 888 if OTHER_SILLY_POWERPC_SUBARCH
>
> But *ONLY* in the architectures that care about doing that stuff.  You
> leave every other architecture on the planet alone.  Then, in mm/Kconfig:
>
> config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 	int
> 	default ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER if ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
> 	default 4
>
> Your way still requires going and individually touching every single
> architecture's Kconfig that wants to enable fault around.  That's not an
> acceptable solution.

Why bother with Kconfig at all?  It seems like a weird indirection.

And talking about future tuning seems like a separate issue, if and when
someone does the work.  For the moment, let's keep it simple (as below).

If you really want Kconfig, then just go straight from
ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER, ie:

        #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
        #define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER CONFIG_ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
        #else
        #define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 4
        #endif

Then powerpc's Kconfig defines CONFIG_ARCH_FAULT_AROUND_ORDER, and
we're done.

Cheers,
Rusty.

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/page.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/page.h
index 32e4e212b9c1..b519c5c53cfc 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/page.h
+++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/page.h
@@ -412,4 +412,7 @@ typedef struct page *pgtable_t;
 #include <asm-generic/memory_model.h>
 #endif /* __ASSEMBLY__ */
 
+/* Measured on a 4 socket Power7 system (128 Threads and 128GB memory) */
+#define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 3
+
 #endif /* _ASM_POWERPC_PAGE_H */
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index d0f0bef3be48..9aa47e9ec7ba 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -3382,7 +3382,10 @@ void do_set_pte(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
 	update_mmu_cache(vma, address, pte);
 }
 
+/* Archs can override, but this seems to work for x86. */
+#ifndef FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
 #define FAULT_AROUND_ORDER 4
+#endif
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
 static unsigned int fault_around_order = FAULT_AROUND_ORDER;

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[PATCH V2 2/2] mm: add FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig paramater for powerpc

[Madhavan Srinivasan]

Performance data for different FAULT_AROUND_ORDER values from 4 socket
Power7 system (128 Threads and 128GB memory) is below. perf stat with
repeat of 5 is used to get the stddev values. This patch create
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig parameter and defaults it to 3 based on the
performance data.

FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7

Linux build (make -j64)
minor-faults            7184385         5874015         4567289         4318518         4193815         4159193
times in seconds        61.433776136    60.865935292    59.245368038    60.630675011    60.56587624     59.828271924
 stddev for time	( +-  1.18% )	( +-  1.78% )	( +-  0.44% )	( +-  2.03% )	( +-  1.66% )	( +-  1.45% )

Linux rebuild (make -j64)
minor-faults            303018          226392          146170          132480          126878          126236
times in seconds        5.659819172     5.723996942     5.591238319     5.622533357     5.878811995     5.550133096
 stddev for time	( +-  0.71% )	( +-  0.78% )	( +-  0.62% )	( +-  0.45% )	( +-  1.55% )	( +-  0.29% )

Two synthetic tests: access every word in file in sequential/random order.
Marginal Performance gains seen for FAO value of 3 when compared to value
of 4.

Sequential access 16GiB file
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7
1 thread
       minor-faults     262302          131192          32873           16486           8291            2351
       times in seconds 53.071497352    52.945826882    52.931417302    52.928577184    52.859285439    53.116800539
       stddev for time	( +-  0.01% )	( +-  0.02% )	( +-  0.02% )	( +-  0.04% )	( +-  0.04% )	( +-  0.01% )
8 threads
       minor-faults     2097314         1051046         263336          131715          66098           16653
       times in seconds 54.385698561    54.603652339    54.771282004    54.488565674    54.496701531    54.962142189
       stddev for time	( +-  0.05% )	( +-  0.02% )	( +-  0.37% )	( +-  0.08% )	( +-  0.07% )	( +-  0.51% )
32 threads
       minor-faults     8389267         4218595         1059961         531319          266463          67271
       times in seconds 60.61715047     60.827964038    60.46412673     60.266045885    60.492398315    60.24531921
       stddev for time	( +-  0.65% )	( +-  0.21% )	( +-  0.25% )	( +-  0.29% )	( +-  0.19% )	( +-  0.35% )
64 threads
       minor-faults     16777455        8485998         2178582         1092106         544302          137693
       times in seconds 86.471334554    84.412415735    85.208303832    84.331473392    85.598793479    84.695469266
       stddev for time	( +-  0.60% )	( +-  1.47% )	( +-  0.74% )	( +-  1.55% )	( +-  0.92% )	( +-  1.16% )
128 threads
       minor-faults     33555267        17734522        4710107         2380821         1182707         292077
       times in seconds 117.535385569   114.291359037   112.593908276   113.081807611   114.358686588   114.491043011
       stddev for time	( +-  2.24% )	( +-  0.92% )	( +-  0.36% )	( +-  0.53% )	( +-  0.70% )	( +-  0.53% )

Random access 1GiB file
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7
1 thread
       minor-faults     16503           8664            2149            1126            610             437
       times in seconds 43.843573808    48.042069805    50.580779682    54.282884593    52.641739876    51.803302129
       stddev for time	( +-  1.30% )	( +-  2.25% )	( +-  2.92% )	( +-  1.44% )	( +-  4.49% )	( +-  3.78% )
8 threads
       minor-faults     131201          70916           17760           8665            4250            1149
       times in seconds 46.262626804    55.942851041    56.629191584    57.97044714     55.417557594    56.019709166
       stddev for time	( +-  4.66% )	( +-  1.52% )	( +-  1.43% )	( +-  1.61% )	( +-  0.65% )	( +-  1.27% )
32 threads
       minor-faults     524959          265980          67282           33601           16930           4316
       times in seconds 67.754175928    69.85012331     71.750338061    71.053074643    68.90728294     71.250103217
       stddev for time	( +-  3.79% )	( +-  0.77% )	( +-  1.15% )	( +-  1.08% )	( +-  2.14% )	( +-  1.17% )
64 threads
       minor-faults     1048831         528829          133256          66700           33428           8776
       times in seconds 96.674025305    93.109961822    87.441777715    91.986332028    88.686748472    93.101434306
       stddev for time	( +-  2.85% )	( +-  2.42% )	( +-  0.42% )	( +-  1.58% )	( +-  1.29% )	( +-  2.01% )
128 threads
       minor-faults     2098043         1053224         266271          133702          66966           17276
       times in seconds 156.525792044   152.117971403   147.523673243   148.560226602   148.596575663   149.389288429
       stddev for time	( +-  2.39% )	( +-  0.71% )	( +-  0.72% )	( +-  0.35% )	( +-  0.41% )	( +-  1.04% )

Worst case scenario: we touch one page every 16M to demonstrate overhead.

Touch only one page in page table in 16GiB file
FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7
1 thread
       minor-faults     1077            1064            1051            1048            1046            1045
       times in seconds 0.00615347      0.008327379     0.019775282     0.034444003     0.05905971      0.220863339
       stddev for time	( +-  3.12% )	( +-  2.29% )	( +-  1.68% )	( +-  1.40% )	( +-  1.68% )	( +-  1.53% )
8 threads
       minor-faults     8252            8239            8226            8223            8220            8224
       times in seconds 0.04387392      0.059859294     0.113897648     0.199707764     0.361585762     1.343366843
       stddev for time	( +-  3.66% )	( +-  2.18% )	( +-  1.44% )	( +-  2.40% )	( +-  2.08% )	( +-  1.75% )
32 threads
       minor-faults     32852           32841           32825           32826           32824           32828
       times in seconds 0.191404544     0.21907773      0.433207123     0.72430447      1.334983196     4.97727449
       stddev for time	( +-  5.08% )	( +-  3.19% )	( +-  4.45% )	( +-  2.18% )	( +-  2.75% )	( +-  1.52% )
64 threads
       minor-faults     65652           65642           65629           65622           65623           65634
       times in seconds 0.402140429     0.510806718     0.854288645     1.412329805     2.556707704     8.711074863
       stddev for time	( +-  2.90% )	( +-  3.04% )	( +-  1.83% )	( +-  2.75% )	( +-  2.49% )	( +-  0.68% )
128 threads
       minor-faults     131255          131239          131228          131228          131229          131243
       times in seconds 0.817782148     1.124631348     2.023730928     3.184792382     5.331392072     17.309524609
       stddev for time	( +-  3.35% )	( +- 11.74% )	( +-  4.55% )	( +-  2.00% )	( +-  1.31% )	( +-  1.30% )

Signed-off-by: Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
---
 arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig |    5 +++++
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)

diff --git a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
index 2cb8b77..2246d9f 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
+++ b/arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/Kconfig
@@ -132,3 +132,8 @@ config DTL
 	  which are accessible through a debugfs file.
 
 	  Say N if you are unsure.
+
+config FAULT_AROUND_ORDER
+	int
+	default "3"
+
-- 
1.7.10.4

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Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] mm: add FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig paramater for powerpc

[Ingo Molnar]

* Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> Performance data for different FAULT_AROUND_ORDER values from 4 socket
> Power7 system (128 Threads and 128GB memory) is below. perf stat with
> repeat of 5 is used to get the stddev values. This patch create
> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig parameter and defaults it to 3 based on the
> performance data.
> 
> FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7
> 
> Linux build (make -j64)
> minor-faults            7184385         5874015         4567289         4318518         4193815         4159193
> times in seconds        61.433776136    60.865935292    59.245368038    60.630675011    60.56587624     59.828271924
>  stddev for time	( +-  1.18% )	( +-  1.78% )	( +-  0.44% )	( +-  2.03% )	( +-  1.66% )	( +-  1.45% )

Ok, this is better, but it is still rather incomplete statistically, 
please also calculate the percentage difference to baseline, so that 
the stddev becomes meaningful and can be compared to something!

As an example I did this for the first line of measurements (all 
errors in the numbers are mine, this was done manually), and it gives:

>  stddev for time   ( +-  1.18% ) ( +-  1.78% ) ( +-  0.44% ) ( +-  2.03% ) ( +-  1.66% ) ( +-  1.45% )
                                        +0.9%         +3.5%         +1.3%         +1.4%         +2.6%

This shows that there is probably a statistically significant 
(positiv) effect from the change, but from these numbers alone I would 
not draw any quantitative (sizing, tuning) conclusions, because in 3 
out of 5 cases the stddev was larger than the effect, so the resulting 
percentages are not comparable.

Please do this calculation for all the other lines as well and also 
close all the numbers with a conclusion section where you *analyze* 
the results, outline the statistics and compare the various workloads 
and how the tuning affects them and don't force the readers of the 
commit guess what it all means and how significant it all is!

Thanks,

	Ingo

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Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] mm: add FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig paramater for powerpc

[Ingo Molnar]

* Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:

> * Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > Performance data for different FAULT_AROUND_ORDER values from 4 
> > socket Power7 system (128 Threads and 128GB memory) is below. perf 
> > stat with repeat of 5 is used to get the stddev values. This patch 
> > create FAULT_AROUND_ORDER Kconfig parameter and defaults it to 3 
> > based on the performance data.
> > 
> > FAULT_AROUND_ORDER      Baseline        1               3               4               5               7
> > 
> > Linux build (make -j64)
> > minor-faults            7184385         5874015         4567289         4318518         4193815         4159193
> > times in seconds        61.433776136    60.865935292    59.245368038    60.630675011    60.56587624     59.828271924
> >  stddev for time	( +-  1.18% )	( +-  1.78% )	( +-  0.44% )	( +-  2.03% )	( +-  1.66% )	( +-  1.45% )
> 
> Ok, this is better, but it is still rather incomplete statistically, 
> please also calculate the percentage difference to baseline, so that 
> the stddev becomes meaningful and can be compared to something!
> 
> As an example I did this for the first line of measurements (all 
> errors in the numbers are mine, this was done manually), and it 
> gives:
> 
> >  stddev for time   ( +-  1.18% ) ( +-  1.78% ) ( +-  0.44% ) ( +-  2.03% ) ( +-  1.66% ) ( +-  1.45% )
>                                         +0.9%         +3.5%         +1.3%         +1.4%         +2.6%
> 
> This shows that there is probably a statistically significant 
> (positiv) effect from the change, but from these numbers alone I 
> would not draw any quantitative (sizing, tuning) conclusions, 
> because in 3 out of 5 cases the stddev was larger than the effect, 
> so the resulting percentages are not comparable.

Also note that because we calculate the percentage by dividing result 
with baseline, the stddev of the two values roughly adds up. So for 
example the second column the true noise is around 1.5%, not 0.4%

So for good sizing decisions the stddev must be 'comfortably' below 
the effect. (or sizing should be done based on the other workloads yu 
tested, I have not checked them.)

It also makes sense to run more measurements to reduce the stddev of 
the baseline. So if each measurement is run 3 times then it makes 
sense to run the baseline 6 times, this gives a ~30% improvement in 
the confidence of our result, at just a small increase in test time.

[ For such cases it might also make sense to script all of that, 
  combined with a debug patch that puts the tuned fault-around value 
  into a dynamic knob in /proc/sys/, so that you can run the full 
  measurement in a single pass, with no reboot and with no human 
  intervention. ]

Thanks,

	Ingo

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