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From: Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:44:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53DBA7E3.6000803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1407312204000.3912@eggly.anvils>

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On 08/01/2014 07:05 AM, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jerome Marchand wrote:
> 
>> Adds get_mm_shswap() which compute the size of swaped out shmem. It
>> does so by pagewalking the mm and using the new shmem_locate() function
>> to get the physical location of shmem pages.
>> The result is displayed in the new VmShSw line of /proc/<pid>/status.
>> Use mm_walk an shmem_locate() to account paged out shmem pages.
>>
>> It significantly slows down /proc/<pid>/status acccess speed when
>> there is a big shmem mapping. If that is an issue, we can drop this
>> patch and only display this counter in the inherently slower
>> /proc/<pid>/smaps file (cf. next patch).
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>
> 
> Definite NAK to this one.  As you guessed yourself, it is always a
> mistake to add one potentially very slow-to-gather number to a stats
> file showing a group of quickly gathered numbers.

What I was going for, is to have a counter for  shared swap in the same
way I did for VmShm, but I never found a way to do it. The reason I
posted this patch is that I hope than someone will have a better idea.

> 
> Is there anything you could do instead?  I don't know if it's worth
> the (little) extra mm_struct storage and maintenance, but you could
> add a VmShmSize, which shows that subset of VmSize (total_vm) which
> is occupied by shmem mappings.
> 
> It's ambiguous what to deduce when VmShm is less than VmShmSize:
> the difference might be swapped out, it might be holes in the sparse
> object, it might be instantiated in the object but never faulted
> into the mapping: in general it will be a mix of all of those.
> So, sometimes useful info, but easy to be misled by it.
> 
> As I say, I don't know if VmShmSize would be worth adding, given its
> deficiencies; and it could be worked out from /proc/<pid>/maps anyway.

I don't think that would be very useful. Sparse mapping are quite common.

Jerome

> 
> Hugh
> 



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-22 13:43 [PATCH RESEND 0/5] mm, shmem: Enhance per-process accounting of shared memory Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem resident memory accounting Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 14:36     ` Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem_locate function Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:01   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem_vma() helper Jerome Marchand
2014-07-24 19:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01  5:03   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 14:37     ` Jerome Marchand
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:05   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 14:44     ` Jerome Marchand [this message]
2014-07-22 13:43 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm, shmem: Show location of non-resident shmem pages in smaps Jerome Marchand
2014-08-01  5:06   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-08-01 15:23     ` Jerome Marchand
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2014-07-01 13:01 [PATCH 0/5] mm, shmem: Enhance per-process accounting of shared memnory Jerome Marchand
2014-07-01 13:02 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, shmem: Add shmem swap memory accounting Jerome Marchand

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