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So perhaps they also accept larger RAM sizes? Yes, that was me. The previous SAM9x60 was released in 2020 and I think that one was an upgrade to a smaller process node, raising the clock frequency to 600MHz and adding more modern peripherals, but I see now that this used the same SDRAM/LPDDR/DDR2 memory controller as previous chips, with a limit of 128MB total DRAM. SAM9X7 in 2023 added DDR3 mode with up to 256MB according to the datasheet, no idea why they chose not to support more, since a 32-bit wide DDR3 bus should allow up to 1GB with two 256Mbit x16 chips that are widely available, or even more using expensive 512Mbit x16 or 1Gbit x8 chips. Arnd