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From: Chintan Pandya <cpandya@codeaurora.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: Provide knob for force OOM into the memcg
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:17:47 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54916D63.7060701@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1412161430040.5142@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On 12/17/2014 04:03 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
>>> We may want to use memcg to limit the total memory
>>> footprint of all the processes within the one group.
>>> This may lead to a situation where any arbitrary
>>> process cannot get migrated to that one  memcg
>>> because its limits will be breached. Or, process can
>>> get migrated but even being most recently used
>>> process, it can get killed by in-cgroup OOM. To
>>> avoid such scenarios, provide a convenient knob
>>> by which we can forcefully trigger OOM and make
>>> a room for upcoming process.
>>>
>>> To trigger force OOM,
>>> $ echo 1>  /<memcg_path>/memory.force_oom
>>
>> What would prevent another task deplete that memory shortly after you
>> triggered OOM and end up in the same situation? E.g. while the moving
>> task is migrating its charges to the new group...

Idea was to trigger an OOM until we can migrate any particular process 
onto desired cgroup.

>>
>> Why cannot you simply disable OOM killer in that memcg and handle it
>> from userspace properly?

Well, this can be done it seems. Let me explore around this. Thanks for 
this suggestion.

> It seems to be proposed as a shortcut so that the kernel will determine
> the best process to kill.  That information is available to userspace so
> it should be able to just SIGKILL the desired process (either in the
> destination memcg or in the source memcg to allow deletion), so this
> functionality isn't needed in the kernel.

Yes, this can be seen as a shortcut because we are off-loading some 
task-selection to be killed by OOM on kernel rather than userspace 
decides by itself.

-- 
Chintan Pandya

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-17 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-16 13:25 [PATCH] memcg: Provide knob for force OOM into the memcg Chintan Pandya
2014-12-16 13:39 ` Michal Hocko
2014-12-16 22:33   ` David Rientjes
2014-12-17 11:47     ` Chintan Pandya [this message]
2014-12-16 16:59 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-12-17 12:11   ` Chintan Pandya
2014-12-19 21:15     ` Johannes Weiner

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