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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/28] mm: Make compound_pincount always available
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:10:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54a8aab9-c7f5-dedc-140f-8d91de1f5cf7@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd0J3QgwgRadAZyp@casper.infradead.org>

On 1/10/22 20:38, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:06:54PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_64BIT
>>>    	return page[1].compound_nr;
>>> +#else
>>> +	return 1UL << compound_order(page);
>>> +#endif
>>
>> Now that you are highlighting this, I have this persistent feeling (not
>> yet confirmed by any testing) that compound_nr is a micro-optimization
>> that is actually invisible at runtime--but is now slicing up our code
>> with ifdefs, and using space in a fairly valuable location.
>>
>> Not for this patch or series, but maybe a separate patch or series
>> should just remove the compound_nr field entirely, yes? It is
>> surprising to carry around both compound_order and (1 <<
>> compound_order), right next to each other. It would be different if this
>> were an expensive calculation, but it's just a shift.
>>
>> Maybe testing would prove that that's a bad idea, and maybe someone has
>> already looked into it, but I wanted to point it out.
> 
> It' probably worth looking at the patch which added it ... 1378a5ee451a
> in August 2020.  I didn't provide any performance numbers, but code size
> definitely went down.

I looked at that, and the lore link for the conversation, but failed to learn
anything additional. Of course if you recall that there was in fact a measurable
performance improvement, then as of now, it's recorded somewhere. :)

It's far from clear whether we'll need or want this space in page[1] in the
future anyway, just wanted to poke at it though.

> 
>>> @@ -52,7 +51,7 @@ static int page_pincount_sub(struct page *page, int refs)
>>>    {
>>>    	VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(page != compound_head(page), page);
>>> -	if (hpage_pincount_available(page))
>>> +	if (PageHead(page))
>>
>> OK, so we just verified (via VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(), which is not always active)
>> that this is not a tail page. And so PageHead() effectively means PageCompound().
>>
>> I wonder if it would be better to just use PageCompound() here and in similar
>> cases. Because that's what is logically being checked, after all. It seems
>> slightly more accurate.
> 
> Well PageCompound() is defined as PageHead() || PageTail().  I don't
> think the intent was for people to always ask "Is this a compound page",
> more "This is a good shorthand to replace PageHead() || PageTail()".
> It's kind of moot anyway because this gets replaced with
> folio_test_large() further down the patch series.
> 

OK.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11  5:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-10  4:23 [PATCH v2 00/28] Convert GUP to folios Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 01/28] gup: Remove for_each_compound_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  1:07   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 02/28] gup: Remove for_each_compound_head() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  1:11   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/28] gup: Change the calling convention for compound_range_next() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  1:14   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 04/28] gup: Optimise compound_range_next() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  1:16   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 05/28] gup: Change the calling convention for compound_next() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-10 13:28     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-11  1:18   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 06/28] gup: Fix some contiguous memmap assumptions Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-10 13:37     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-10 19:05       ` [External] : " Mike Kravetz
2022-01-11  1:47   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 07/28] gup: Remove an assumption of a contiguous memmap Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  3:27   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 08/28] gup: Handle page split race more efficiently Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  3:30   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 09/28] gup: Turn hpage_pincount_add() into page_pincount_add() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  3:35   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-11  4:32   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-11 13:46     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 10/28] gup: Turn hpage_pincount_sub() into page_pincount_sub() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  6:40   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 11/28] mm: Make compound_pincount always available Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-11  4:06   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-11  4:38     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-11  5:10       ` John Hubbard [this message]
2022-01-20  9:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 12/28] mm: Add folio_put_refs() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  4:14   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 13/28] mm: Add folio_pincount_ptr() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  4:22   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] mm: Convert page_maybe_dma_pinned() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  4:27   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 15/28] gup: Add try_get_folio() and try_grab_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  5:00   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 16/28] mm: Remove page_cache_add_speculative() and page_cache_get_speculative() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  5:14   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 17/28] gup: Add gup_put_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  6:44   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 18/28] hugetlb: Use try_grab_folio() instead of try_grab_compound_head() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  6:47   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 19/28] gup: Convert try_grab_page() to call try_grab_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:01   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 20/28] gup: Convert gup_pte_range() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:06   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:23 ` [PATCH v2 21/28] gup: Convert gup_hugepte() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:33   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 22/28] gup: Convert gup_huge_pmd() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:36   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 23/28] gup: Convert gup_huge_pud() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:38   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 24/28] gup: Convert gup_huge_pgd() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:38   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 25/28] gup: Convert compound_next() to gup_folio_next() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:41   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 26/28] gup: Convert compound_range_next() to gup_folio_range_next() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-10 13:41     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-11  7:44   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 27/28] mm: Add isolate_lru_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:49   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10  4:24 ` [PATCH v2 28/28] gup: Convert check_and_migrate_movable_pages() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-10  8:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-11  7:52   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10 15:31 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] Convert GUP to folios Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-10 16:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-10 17:26 ` William Kucharski

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