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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Beata Michalska <b.michalska@samsung.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
	adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, hughd@google.com, lczerner@redhat.com,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
	kmpark@infradead.org,
	Linux Filesystem Mailing List <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] fs: Add generic file system event notifications
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:23:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55310957.3070101@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <553104E5.2040704@samsung.com>

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On 2015-04-17 09:04, Beata Michalska wrote:
> On 04/17/2015 01:31 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
>> On Wed 15-04-15 09:15:44, Beata Michalska wrote:
>> ...
>>> +static const match_table_t fs_etypes = {
>>> +	{ FS_EVENT_INFO,    "info"  },
>>> +	{ FS_EVENT_WARN,    "warn"  },
>>> +	{ FS_EVENT_THRESH,  "thr"   },
>>> +	{ FS_EVENT_ERR,     "err"   },
>>> +	{ 0, NULL },
>>> +};
>>    Why are there these generic message types? Threshold messages make good
>> sense to me. But not so much the rest. If they don't have a clear meaning,
>> it will be a mess. So I also agree with a message like - "filesystem has
>> trouble, you should probably unmount and run fsck" - that's fine. But
>> generic "info" or "warning" doesn't really carry any meaning on its own and
>> thus seems pretty useless to me. To explain a bit more, AFAIU this
>> shouldn't be a generic logging interface where something like severity
>> makes sense but rather a relatively specific interface notifying about
>> events in filesystem userspace should know about so I expect relatively low
>> number of types of events, not tens or even hundreds...
>>
>> 								Honza
>
> Getting rid of those would simplify the configuration part, indeed.
> So we would be left with 'generic' and threshold events.
> I guess I've overdone this part.

For some filesystems, it may make sense to differentiate between a 
generic warning and an error.  For BTRFS and ZFS for example, if there 
is a csum error on a block, this will get automatically corrected in 
many configurations, and won't require anything like fsck to be run, but 
monitoring applications will still probably want to be notified.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-17 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-15  7:15 [RFC 0/4] Generic file system events interface Beata Michalska
2015-04-15  7:15 ` [RFC 1/4] fs: Add generic file system event notifications Beata Michalska
2015-04-15 19:25   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-04-16  8:22     ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-17  8:48       ` Jan Kara
2015-04-16  3:46   ` Eric Sandeen
2015-04-16  8:41     ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-16 20:10       ` Hugh Dickins
2015-04-17  9:10         ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-16 21:56   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2015-04-17  9:46     ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-17 11:58     ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 11:31   ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 13:04     ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-17 13:15       ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-17 13:16       ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 13:23       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-04-17 13:41         ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 14:51         ` John Spray
2015-04-17 15:43           ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 16:08             ` John Spray
2015-04-17 16:22               ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 16:29                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-04-17 16:39                   ` Jan Kara
2015-04-17 17:37                 ` John Spray
2015-04-17 22:37                   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-04-17 16:25               ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-17 22:44     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-04-20  8:56       ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-20 10:32       ` Jan Kara
2015-04-15  7:15 ` [RFC 2/4] ext4: Add helper function to mark group as corrupted Beata Michalska
2015-04-15  7:15 ` [RFC 3/4] ext4: Add support for generic FS events Beata Michalska
2015-04-15 19:18   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-04-16  8:02     ` Beata Michalska
2015-04-15  7:15 ` [RFC 4/4] shmem: " Beata Michalska
2015-04-17  8:17 ` [RFC 0/4] Generic file system events interface Jan Kara
2015-04-17  9:10   ` Beata Michalska

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