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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4
Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 23:32:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <554839D0.3080703@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150504143046.9404c572486caf71bdef0676@linux-foundation.org>

On 05/04/2015 05:30 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 01 May 2015 20:09:21 -0400 Waiman Long<waiman.long@hp.com>  wrote:
>
>> On 05/01/2015 06:02 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> Bad news!
>>>
>>> I tried your patch on a 24-TB DragonHawk and got an out of memory
>>> panic. The kernel log messages were:
>> ...
>>
>>> [   81.360287]  [<ffffffff8151b0c9>] dump_stack+0x68/0x77
>>> [   81.365942]  [<ffffffff8151ae1e>] panic+0xb9/0x219
>>> [   81.371213]  [<ffffffff810785c3>] ?
>>> __blocking_notifier_call_chain+0x63/0x80
>>> [   81.378971]  [<ffffffff811384ce>] __out_of_memory+0x34e/0x350
>>> [   81.385292]  [<ffffffff811385ee>] out_of_memory+0x5e/0x90
>>> [   81.391230]  [<ffffffff8113ce9e>] __alloc_pages_slowpath+0x6be/0x740
>>> [   81.398219]  [<ffffffff8113d15c>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x23c/0x250
>>> [   81.405212]  [<ffffffff81186346>] kmem_getpages+0x56/0x110
>>> [   81.411246]  [<ffffffff81187f44>] fallback_alloc+0x164/0x200
>>> [   81.417474]  [<ffffffff81187cfd>] ____cache_alloc_node+0x8d/0x170
>>> [   81.424179]  [<ffffffff811887bb>] kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x17b/0x240
>>> [   81.431169]  [<ffffffff813d5f3a>] init_memory_block+0x3a/0x110
>>> [   81.437586]  [<ffffffff81b5f687>] memory_dev_init+0xd7/0x13d
>>> [   81.443810]  [<ffffffff81b5f2af>] driver_init+0x2f/0x37
>>> [   81.449556]  [<ffffffff81b1599b>] do_basic_setup+0x29/0xd5
>>> [   81.455597]  [<ffffffff81b372c4>] ? sched_init_smp+0x140/0x147
>>> [   81.462015]  [<ffffffff81b15c55>] kernel_init_freeable+0x20e/0x297
>>> [   81.468815]  [<ffffffff81512ea0>] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
>>> [   81.474565]  [<ffffffff81512ea9>] kernel_init+0x9/0xf0
>>> [   81.480216]  [<ffffffff8151f788>] ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
>>> [   81.486156]  [<ffffffff81512ea0>] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
>>> [   81.492350] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and
>>> no killable processes...
>>> [   81.492350]
>>>
>>> -Longman
>> I increased the pre-initialized memory per node in update_defer_init()
>> of mm/page_alloc.c from 2G to 4G. Now I am able to boot the 24-TB
>> machine without error. The 12-TB has 0.75TB/node, while the 24-TB
>> machine has 1.5TB/node. I would suggest something like pre-initializing
>> 1G per 0.25TB/node. In this way, it will scale properly with the memory
>> size.
> We're using more than 2G before we've even completed do_basic_setup()?
> Where did it all go?

I think they may be used in the allocation of the hash tables like:

[    2.367440] Dentry cache hash table entries: 2147483648 (order: 22, 
17179869184 bytes)
[   11.522768] Inode-cache hash table entries: 2147483648 (order: 22, 
17179869184 bytes)
[   18.598513] Mount-cache hash table entries: 67108864 (order: 17, 
536870912 bytes)
[   18.667485] Mountpoint-cache hash table entries: 67108864 (order: 17, 
536870912 bytes)

The size of those hash tables do scale somewhat linearly with the amount 
of total memory available.

>> Before the patch, the boot time from elilo prompt to ssh login was 694s.
>> After the patch, the boot up time was 346s, a saving of 348s (about 50%).
> Having to guesstimate the amount of memory which is needed for a
> successful boot will be painful.  Any number we choose will be wrong
> 99% of the time.
>
> If the kswapd threads have started, all we need to do is to wait: take
> a little nap in the allocator's page==NULL slowpath.
>
> I'm not seeing any reason why we can't start kswapd much earlier -
> right at the start of do_basic_setup()?

I think we can, we just have to change the hash table allocator to do that.

Cheers,
Longman

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-05  3:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:36 [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: meminit: Move page initialization into a separate function Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: meminit: Only set page reserved in the memblock region Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 20:31   ` Tony Luck
2015-05-26 10:22     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: page_alloc: Pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:20   ` [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: meminit: Make __early_pfn_to_nid SMP-safe and introduce meminit_pfn_in_nid Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: meminit: Inline some helper functions Mel Gorman
2015-04-30 21:53   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-04  8:33   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set Mel Gorman
2015-04-29 21:19   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30  8:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:21   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set -fix Mel Gorman
2015-07-14 15:54   ` 4.2-rc2: hitting "file-max limit 8192 reached" Dave Hansen
2015-07-14 16:15     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-15 10:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm: meminit: Initialise remaining struct pages in parallel with kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: meminit: Minimise number of pfn->page lookups during initialisation Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86: mm: Enable deferred struct page initialisation on x86-64 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: meminit: Free pages in large chunks where possible Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:23   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: meminit: Remove mminit_verify_page_links Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Pekka Enberg
2015-04-28 18:38   ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 16:10     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-04-30 17:12       ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 17:28         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-02 11:52       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29  1:16 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-01 22:02   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  0:09     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  8:52       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02 16:05         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-04 21:30       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05  3:32         ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-05-05 10:45         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 13:55           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 14:31             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 15:01               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  3:39                 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  0:55               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 20:02           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 22:13             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-06  7:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 10:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 12:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 17:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  2:37                       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  7:21                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06  1:21             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  2:01               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07  7:25             ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 22:09               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 22:52                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 23:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-13 15:53                 ` nzimmer
2015-05-13 16:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-14 10:03                     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-14 15:47                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 18:31                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 19:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22  6:30                       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-22  9:33                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 17:14                           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-22 21:43                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-23  3:49                             ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-06-24 22:50                       ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 20:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:57                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 21:37                             ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:34                           ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-26 10:16                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-06 17:45                         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-07-09 17:49                           ` Nathan Zimmer

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