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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4
Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 09:55:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5548CBE8.5090203@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150505104514.GC2462@suse.de>

On 05/05/2015 06:45 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 02:30:46PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> Before the patch, the boot time from elilo prompt to ssh login was 694s.
>>> After the patch, the boot up time was 346s, a saving of 348s (about 50%).
>> Having to guesstimate the amount of memory which is needed for a
>> successful boot will be painful.  Any number we choose will be wrong
>> 99% of the time.
>>
>> If the kswapd threads have started, all we need to do is to wait: take
>> a little nap in the allocator's page==NULL slowpath.
>>
>> I'm not seeing any reason why we can't start kswapd much earlier -
>> right at the start of do_basic_setup()?
> It doesn't even have to be kswapd, it just should be a thread pinned to
> a done. The difficulty is that dealing with the system hashes means the
> initialisation has to happen before vfs_caches_init_early() when there is
> no scheduler. Those allocations could be delayed further but then there is
> the possibility that the allocations would not be contiguous and they'd
> have to rely on CMA to make the attempt. That potentially alters the
> performance of the large system hashes at run time.
>
> We can scale the amount initialised with memory sizes relatively easy.
> This boots on the same 1TB machine I was testing before but that is
> hardly a surprise.
>
> ---8<---
> mm: meminit: Take into account that large system caches scale linearly with memory
>
> Waiman Long reported a 24TB machine triggered an OOM as parallel memory
> initialisation deferred too much memory for initialisation. The likely
> consumer of this memory was large system hashes that scale with memory
> size. This patch initialises at least 2G per node but scales the amount
> initialised for larger systems.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@suse.de>
> ---
>   mm/page_alloc.c | 15 +++++++++++++--
>   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 598f78d6544c..f7cc6c9fb909 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -266,15 +266,16 @@ static inline bool early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>    */
>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>   				unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
> +				unsigned long max_initialise,
>   				unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>   {
>   	/* Always populate low zones for address-contrained allocations */
>   	if (zone_end<  pgdat_end_pfn(pgdat))
>   		return true;
>
> -	/* Initialise at least 2G of the highest zone */
> +	/* Initialise at least the requested amount in the highest zone */
>   	(*nr_initialised)++;
> -	if (*nr_initialised>  (2UL<<  (30 - PAGE_SHIFT))&&
> +	if ((*nr_initialised>  max_initialise)&&
>   	(pfn&  (PAGES_PER_SECTION - 1)) == 0) {
>   		pgdat->first_deferred_pfn = pfn;
>   		return false;
> @@ -299,6 +300,7 @@ static inline bool early_page_nid_uninitialised(unsigned long pfn, int nid)
>
>   static inline bool update_defer_init(pg_data_t *pgdat,
>   				unsigned long pfn, unsigned long zone_end,
> +				unsigned long max_initialise,
>   				unsigned long *nr_initialised)
>   {
>   	return true;
> @@ -4457,11 +4459,19 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_zone(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone,
>   	unsigned long end_pfn = start_pfn + size;
>   	unsigned long pfn;
>   	struct zone *z;
> +	unsigned long max_initialise;
>   	unsigned long nr_initialised = 0;
>
>   	if (highest_memmap_pfn<  end_pfn - 1)
>   		highest_memmap_pfn = end_pfn - 1;
>
> +	/*
> +	 * Initialise at least 2G of a node but also take into account that
> +	 * two large system hashes that can take up an 8th of memory.
> +	 */
> +	max_initialise = min(2UL<<  (30 - PAGE_SHIFT),
> +			(pgdat->node_spanned_pages>>  3));
> +

I think you may be pre-allocating too much memory here. On the 24-TB 
machine, the size of the dentry and inode hash tables were 16G each. So 
the ratio is about is about 32G/24T = 0.13%. I think a shift factor of 
(>> 8) which is about 0.39% should be more than enough. For the 24TB 
machine, that means a preallocated memory of 96+4G which should be even 
more than the 64+4G in the modified kernel that I used. At the same 
time, I think we can also set the minimum to 1G or even 0.5G for better 
performance for systems that have many CPUs, but not as much memory per 
node.

Cheers,
Longman

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-05 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-28 14:36 [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 01/13] memblock: Introduce a for_each_reserved_mem_region iterator Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:36 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm: meminit: Move page initialization into a separate function Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/13] mm: meminit: Only set page reserved in the memblock region Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 20:31   ` Tony Luck
2015-05-26 10:22     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm: page_alloc: Pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:20   ` [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: pass PFN to __free_pages_bootmem -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/13] mm: meminit: Make __early_pfn_to_nid SMP-safe and introduce meminit_pfn_in_nid Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/13] mm: meminit: Inline some helper functions Mel Gorman
2015-04-30 21:53   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30 21:55     ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-04  8:33   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-04  8:38     ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/13] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set Mel Gorman
2015-04-29 21:19   ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-30  8:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:21   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Initialise a subset of struct pages if CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set -fix Mel Gorman
2015-07-14 15:54   ` 4.2-rc2: hitting "file-max limit 8192 reached" Dave Hansen
2015-07-14 16:15     ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-15 10:45     ` Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/13] mm: meminit: Initialise remaining struct pages in parallel with kswapd Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/13] mm: meminit: Minimise number of pfn->page lookups during initialisation Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/13] x86: mm: Enable deferred struct page initialisation on x86-64 Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: meminit: Free pages in large chunks where possible Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/13] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init Mel Gorman
2015-05-01  9:23   ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Reduce number of times pageblocks are set during struct page init -fix Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 14:37 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm: meminit: Remove mminit_verify_page_links Mel Gorman
2015-04-28 16:06 ` [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4 Pekka Enberg
2015-04-28 18:38   ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 16:10     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-04-30 17:12       ` nzimmer
2015-04-30 17:28         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-02 11:52       ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2015-04-29  1:16 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-01 22:02   ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  0:09     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-02  8:52       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-02 16:05         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-04 21:30       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05  3:32         ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 10:45         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 13:55           ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-05-05 14:31             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 15:01               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  3:39                 ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  0:55               ` Waiman Long
2015-05-05 20:02           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-05 22:13             ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-05 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-06  7:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 10:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 12:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06 17:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  2:37                       ` Waiman Long
2015-05-07  7:21                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-06  1:21             ` Waiman Long
2015-05-06  2:01               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07  7:25             ` [PATCH] mm: meminit: Finish initialisation of struct pages before basic setup Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 22:09               ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-07 22:52                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-07 23:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-13 15:53                 ` nzimmer
2015-05-13 16:31                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-14 10:03                     ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-14 15:47                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 18:31                       ` nzimmer
2015-05-19 19:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22  6:30                       ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-05-22  9:33                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-05-22 17:14                           ` Waiman Long
2015-05-22 21:43                             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-05-23  3:49                             ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-06-24 22:50                       ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 20:48                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 20:57                           ` Mel Gorman
2015-06-25 21:37                             ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-25 21:34                           ` Nathan Zimmer
2015-06-26 10:16                         ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-06 17:45                         ` Daniel J Blueman
2015-07-09 17:49                           ` Nathan Zimmer

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