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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm/gup: remove (VM_)BUG_ONs
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 16:58:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5575b0cf-de59-4b4e-b339-c310f079bda7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb548cd0-4a6a-4e90-92b8-24c7b35df416@lucifer.local>

On 04.06.25 16:48, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> +Linus in case he has an opinion about BUG_ON() in general...
> 
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 04:05:44PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Especially once we hit one of the assertions in
>> sanity_check_pinned_pages(), observing follow-up assertions failing
>> in other code can give good clues about what went wrong, so use
>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE instead.
> 
> I guess the situation where you'd actually want a BUG_ON() is one where
> carrying on might cause further corruption so you just want things to stop.

Yes. Like, serious data corruption would be avoidable.

> 
> But usually we're already pretty screwed if the thing happened right? So
> it's rare if ever that this would be legit?
> 
> Linus's point of view is that we shouldn't use them _at all_ right? So
> maybe even this situation isn't one where we'd want to use one?

I think the grey zone is actual data corruption. But one has to have a 
pretty good reason to use a BUG_ON and not a WARN_ON_ONCE() + recovery.

> 
>>
>> While at it, let's just convert all VM_BUG_ON to VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as
>> well. Add one comment for the pfn_valid() check.
> 
> Yeah VM_BUG_ON() is just _weird_. Maybe we should get rid of all of them
> full stop?

That's my thinking a well.

> 
>>
>> We have to introduce VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA() to make that fly.
> 
> I checked the implementation vs. the other VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_*()'s and it
> looks good.
> 
> I wonder if we can find a way to not duplicate this code... but one for a
> follow up I think :>)
> 
>>
>> Drop the BUG_ON after mmap_read_lock_killable(), if that ever returns
>> something > 0 we're in bigger trouble. Convert the other BUG_ON's into
>> VM_WARN_ON_ONCE as well, they are in a similar domain "should never
>> happen", but more reasonable to check for during early testing.
>>
>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>> Cc: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
>> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
>> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>> Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
>> Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> 
> LGTM so,
> 
> Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> 
> 

Thanks!

> One nit below.
> 
>> ---
>>
>> Wanted to do this for a long time, but my todo list keeps growing ...
> 
> Sounds familiar :) Merge window a chance to do some of these things...
> 
>>
>> Based on mm/mm-unstable
>>
>> ---
>>   include/linux/mmdebug.h | 12 ++++++++++++
>>   mm/gup.c                | 41 +++++++++++++++++++----------------------
>>   2 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmdebug.h b/include/linux/mmdebug.h
>> index a0a3894900ed4..14a45979cccc9 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/mmdebug.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/mmdebug.h
>> @@ -89,6 +89,17 @@ void vma_iter_dump_tree(const struct vma_iterator *vmi);
>>   	}								\
>>   	unlikely(__ret_warn_once);					\
>>   })
>> +#define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA(cond, vma)		({			\
>> +	static bool __section(".data..once") __warned;			\
>> +	int __ret_warn_once = !!(cond);					\
>> +									\
>> +	if (unlikely(__ret_warn_once && !__warned)) {			\
>> +		dump_vma(vma);						\
>> +		__warned = true;					\
>> +		WARN_ON(1);						\
>> +	}								\
>> +	unlikely(__ret_warn_once);					\
>> +})
> 
> An aside, I wonder if we could somehow make this generic for various
> WARN_ON_ONCE()'s?

Yeah, probably. Maybe it will get .... ugly :)

> 
>>   #define VM_WARN_ON_VMG(cond, vmg)		({			\
>>   	int __ret_warn = !!(cond);					\
>>   									\
>> @@ -115,6 +126,7 @@ void vma_iter_dump_tree(const struct vma_iterator *vmi);
>>   #define VM_WARN_ON_FOLIO(cond, folio)  BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>>   #define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO(cond, folio)  BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>>   #define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_MM(cond, mm)  BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>> +#define VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_VMA(cond, vma)  BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>>   #define VM_WARN_ON_VMG(cond, vmg)  BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>>   #define VM_WARN_ONCE(cond, format...) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>>   #define VM_WARN(cond, format...) BUILD_BUG_ON_INVALID(cond)
>> diff --git a/mm/gup.c b/mm/gup.c
>> index e065a49842a87..3c3931fcdd820 100644
>> --- a/mm/gup.c
>> +++ b/mm/gup.c
>> @@ -64,11 +64,11 @@ static inline void sanity_check_pinned_pages(struct page **pages,
>>   		    !folio_test_anon(folio))
>>   			continue;
>>   		if (!folio_test_large(folio) || folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
>> -			VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page), page);
>> +			VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page), page);
>>   		else
>>   			/* Either a PTE-mapped or a PMD-mapped THP. */
>> -			VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page) &&
>> -				       !PageAnonExclusive(page), page);
>> +			VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_PAGE(!PageAnonExclusive(&folio->page) &&
>> +					     !PageAnonExclusive(page), page);
> 
> Nit but wouldn't VM_WARN_ON_ONCE_FOLIO() work better here?

No, we want the actual problematic page here, as that can give us clues 
what is going wrong.

For the small-folio case above we could use it, though.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-04 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-04 14:05 [PATCH v1] mm/gup: remove (VM_)BUG_ONs David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 14:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-04 14:26   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-06-04 14:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 14:58   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-06-04 15:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 15:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-04 16:05     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-04 15:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-04 16:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-04 17:25 ` SeongJae Park
2025-06-04 19:12 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-06-04 19:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  1:07 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-05  5:37   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05  6:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  8:48       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-06-05 12:29         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-05  7:10 ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06  8:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06  8:31     ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06  9:01       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 10:13         ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:19           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:04               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 11:44                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 11:56                   ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 12:12                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 12:17                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 17:57                 ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:06                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:15                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:21                       ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:23                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:31                           ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:36                             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06 18:39                               ` John Hubbard
2025-06-06 18:34                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 18:42                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-06 18:46                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 19:03                               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 13:42                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-07 13:53                                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-07 18:00                                     ` John Hubbard
2025-06-09  9:57                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:54                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-07-24 10:56                                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 17:27                                             ` John Hubbard
2025-06-11  9:32                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-11 12:03                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-11 12:06                                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-06-06 10:28             ` Michal Hocko
2025-06-06 10:27           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-06-06  8:12 ` David Hildenbrand

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