From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 4/4] mm: fallback for offline nodes in alloc_pages_node
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:29:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B61629.1060701@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1507241559181.12744@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On 07/25/2015 01:06 AM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>
>> Because I didn't think you would suggest the "nid = numa_mem_id()" for
>> !node_online(nid) fixup would happen only for CONFIG_DEBUG_VM kernels. But it
>> seems that you do suggest that? I would understand if the fixup (correcting an
>> offline node to some that's online) was done regardless of DEBUG_VM, and
>> DEBUG_VM just switched between silent and noisy fixup. But having a debug option
>> alter the outcome seems wrong?
>
> Hmm, not sure why this is surprising, I don't expect people to deploy
> production kernels with CONFIG_DEBUG_VM enabled, it's far too expensive.
> I was expecting they would enable it for, well... debug :)
But is there any other place that does such thing for debug builds?
> In that case, if nid is a valid node but offline, then the nid =
> numa_mem_id() fixup seems fine to allow the kernel to continue debugging.
>
> When a node is offlined as a result of memory hotplug, the pgdat doesn't
> get freed so it can be onlined later. Thus, alloc_pages_node() with an
> offline node and !CONFIG_DEBUG_VM may not panic. If it does, this can
> probably be removed because we're covered.
I've checked, but can't say I understand the hotplug code completely...
but it seems there are two cases
- the node was never online, and the nid passed to alloc_pages_node() is
clearly bogus. Then there's no pgdat and it should crash on NULL pointer
dereference. VM_WARN_ON() in __alloc_pages_node() will already catch
this and provide more details as to what caused the crash. Fixup would
allow "continue debugging", but it seems that having configured e.g. a
crashdump to inspect is a better way to debug than letting the kernel
continue?
- the node has been online in the past, so the nid pointing to an
offline node might be due to a race with offlining. It shouldn't crash,
and most likely the zonelist that is left untouched by the offlining
(AFAICS) will allow fallback to other nodes. Unless there is a nodemask
of __GFP_THIS_NODE, in which case allocation fails. Again, VM_WARN_ON()
in __alloc_pages_node() will warn us already. I doubt the fixup is
needed here?
So I would just drop this patch. We already have the debug warning in
__alloc_pages_node(), and a fixup is imho just confusing.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-27 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-24 14:45 [RFC v2 1/4] mm: make alloc_pages_exact_node pass __GFP_THISNODE Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 14:45 ` [RFC v2 2/4] mm: unify checks in alloc_pages_node family of functions Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 20:09 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-24 14:45 ` [RFC v2 3/4] mm: use numa_mem_id in alloc_pages_node() Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 20:09 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-29 13:31 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-24 14:45 ` [RFC v2 4/4] mm: fallback for offline nodes in alloc_pages_node Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 15:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-24 19:54 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-24 20:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 23:06 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-27 11:29 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-07-24 20:08 ` [RFC v2 1/4] mm: make alloc_pages_exact_node pass __GFP_THISNODE David Rientjes
2015-07-24 20:52 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-24 23:09 ` David Rientjes
2015-07-27 15:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-07-27 15:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-29 13:30 ` Mel Gorman
2015-07-30 14:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-30 15:14 ` Johannes Weiner
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