From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
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Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:27:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DB29EB.1000308@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALYGNiNuZgQFzZ+_dQsPOvSJAX7QfZ38zbabn4wRc=oC5Lb9wA@mail.gmail.com>
On 08/24/2015 03:50 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>> On 08/24/2015 12:17 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in the middle of implementing lock on fault this way, but I cannot
>>>> see how we will hanlde mremap of a lock on fault region. Say we have
>>>> the following:
>>>>
>>>> addr = mmap(len, MAP_ANONYMOUS, ...);
>>>> mlock(addr, len, MLOCK_ONFAULT);
>>>> ...
>>>> mremap(addr, len, 2 * len, ...)
>>>>
>>>> There is no way for mremap to know that the area being remapped was lock
>>>> on fault so it will be locked and prefaulted by remap. How can we avoid
>>>> this without tracking per vma if it was locked with lock or lock on
>>>> fault?
>>>
>>>
>>> remap can count filled ptes and prefault only completely populated areas.
>>
>>
>> Does (and should) mremap really prefault non-present pages? Shouldn't it
>> just prepare the page tables and that's it?
>
> As I see mremap prefaults pages when it extends mlocked area.
>
> Also quote from manpage
> : If the memory segment specified by old_address and old_size is locked
> : (using mlock(2) or similar), then this lock is maintained when the segment is
> : resized and/or relocated. As a consequence, the amount of memory locked
> : by the process may change.
Oh, right... Well that looks like a convincing argument for having a
sticky VM_LOCKONFAULT after all. Having mremap guess by scanning
existing pte's would slow it down, and be unreliable (was the area
completely populated because MLOCK_ONFAULT was not used or because the
process aulted it already? Was it not populated because MLOCK_ONFAULT
was used, or because mmap(MAP_LOCKED) failed to populate it all?).
The only sane alternative is to populate always for mremap() of
VM_LOCKED areas, and document this loss of MLOCK_ONFAULT information as
a limitation of mlock2(MLOCK_ONFAULT). Which might or might not be
enough for Eric's usecase, but it's somewhat ugly.
>>
>>> There might be a problem after failed populate: remap will handle them
>>> as lock on fault. In this case we can fill ptes with swap-like non-present
>>> entries to remember that fact and count them as should-be-locked pages.
>>
>>
>> I don't think we should strive to have mremap try to fix the inherent
>> unreliability of mmap (MAP_POPULATE)?
>
> I don't think so. MAP_POPULATE works only when mmap happens.
> Flag MREMAP_POPULATE might be a good idea. Just for symmetry.
Maybe, but please do it as a separate series.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-24 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-09 5:22 [PATCH v7 0/6] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Eric B Munson
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] mm: mlock: Refactor mlock, munlock, and munlockall code Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 9:42 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] mm: mlock: Add new mlock system call Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 9:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 21:33 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-20 7:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 7:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 17:03 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-21 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-21 18:31 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 10:17 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-24 13:50 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 14:27 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-08-24 15:09 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 15:46 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 15:55 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 16:22 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 17:00 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 18:53 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 20:26 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:58 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 18:58 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 19:03 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-26 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 15:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] mm: mlock: Add mlock flags to enable VM_LOCKONFAULT usage Eric B Munson
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] selftests: vm: Add tests for lock on fault Eric B Munson
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] mips: Add entry for new mlock2 syscall Eric B Munson
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