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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 38450A0002 X-Stat-Signature: 8s4u46jw8cyeyboxpt61q5hhhg8tudh4 X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1788793779-452995 X-HE-Meta: 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 3Mq/phTF nCDziF12kXl/QGDf9zGcDVUJ/DDo2X1+YCeM0XYuHAZfv5MuFrAjFrcHS/2X9EmlYlFNKlCqP3YOvpJoUW1TkVyEpimi+mpqtZxIIIzwuL/Kbq02k1uXqdfrBRDzpHuJjG3rLJrLM9rx82Jx34vpGmiJWFPjwXaFD+Id6s4kNkD6DKeriLACgJwd2DZne6HANa8K68N2xUT8vigEacfSw3Z5qE8JbFaf06TYTbkG1fKVUcVQYUqrcMs8h0faCSQAb+5L6qIgBeH9EIKUHP4hfATC/1y2VdBG/j7XQh0lMYU4n1PFxiO2GVcpe8uwGIjGzz9YYtDR9PoCqxDtcaIUB1EVY3FLFNt2XHxP5 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 9/7/26 14:32, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2026 at 05:17:57PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Sep 2026 17:01:37 +0100 "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" wrote: >> >> > Andrew - could you swap the patch out in-place with below? Thanks! >> > >> >> np. >> >> > Currently MADV_WILLNEED treats file-backed and pure anonymous mappings >> > entirely separately - using POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED (equivalent of a readahead) >> > for the former and a tree walk and swap in to swap cache for the latter. >> > >> > MAP_PRIVATE-file backed mappings straddle the two and currently get treated >> > as if they were purely file-backed, meaning any swapped out private pages >> > remain swapped out. >> > >> > Resolve the issue by explicitly checking for CoW'd MAP_PRIVATE-file backed >> > mappings and performing both walks in this case. >> > >> > Since the logic checks for vma->anon_vma this means un-CoW'd >> > MAP_PRIVATE-file backed mappings retain only the single file walk. >> > >> > Reported-by: Mike Kaplinskiy >> > Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CABeknB_S2XJSHFgnHdgnN0rjzHhH4oQJs_APq9fvxHztQ_pgiA@mail.gmail.com/ >> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) >> >> The failure mode looks pretty obscure, so I'm thinking that no backport >> is needed. > > Well it's not even really a failure mode so much as a 'known limitation' :) > So yeah agreed. Yeah, as we know madvise() just an advice after all, the kernel is free to ignore it :) (MADV_DONTNEED and friends enter the chat) > -- > Cheers, Lorenzo