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From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sparc64: Add support for Application Data Integrity (ADI)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:44:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DDDA31.9090105@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU5NCzh3b7We8903G0_Tm-oycgP3+gS9fG+vC_rdgTddw@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/07/2016 11:49 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com> wrote:
>> No, it changes the tag associated with the virtual address for the caller.
>> Physical page backing this virtual address is unaffected. Tag checking is
>> done for virtual addresses. The one restriction where physical address is
>> relevant is when two processes map the same physical page, they both have to
>> use the same tag for the virtual addresses that map on to the shared
>> physical pages.
>
> Slow down, please.  *Why* do the tags for two different VAs that map
> to the same PA have to match?  What goes wrong if they don't, and why
> is requiring them to be the same a good idea?
>

Consider this scenario:

1. Process A creates a shm and attaches to it.
2. Process A fills shm with data it wants to share with only known 
processes. It enables ADI and sets tags on the shm.
3. Hacker triggers something like stack overflow on process A, exec's a 
new rogue binary and manages to attach to this shm. MMU knows tags were 
set on the virtual address mapping to the physical pages hosting the 
shm. If MMU does not require the rogue process to set the exact same 
tags on its mapping of the same shm, rogue process has defeated the ADI 
protection easily.

Does this make sense?

>>
>>>
>>> I sense DoS issues in your future.
>>>
>>
>> Are you concerned about DoS even if the tag is associated with virtual
>> address, not physical address?
>
> Yes, absolutely.
>
> fd = open("/lib/ld.so");
> mmap(fd)
> stxa to write the tag
>
> *boom*, presumably, because the tags apparently have to match for all mappings.
>

A process can not just write version tags and make the file inaccessible 
to others. It takes three steps to enable ADI:

1. Set PSTATE.mcde for the process.
2. Set TTE.mcd on all PTEs for the virtual addresses ADI is being 
enabled on.
3. Set version tags.

Unless all three steps are taken, tag checking will not be done. stxa 
will fail unless step 2 is completed. In your example, the step of 
setting TTE.mcd will force sharing to stop for the process through 
change_protection(), right?

Thanks for asking these tough questions. These are very helpful in 
refining my implementation and avoiding silly bugs.

--
Khalid


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 20:39 [PATCH v2] sparc64: Add support for Application Data Integrity (ADI) Khalid Aziz
2016-03-02 23:08 ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-03  0:25   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-03  0:48     ` Julian Calaby
2016-03-03 17:28       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-06  4:07 ` David Miller
2016-03-07 15:07   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 15:30     ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 15:43       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 16:06         ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 17:46           ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 17:53             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:12               ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 18:39                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 19:22                     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:46                       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 22:40                         ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-08  1:31                   ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 21:06             ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 19:57               ` David Miller
2016-03-08 20:16                 ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08 20:27                   ` David Miller
2016-03-08 20:59                     ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 15:45       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 16:45     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 17:51       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 16:56     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 18:04       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 18:22           ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 18:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 19:19               ` David Miller
2016-03-07 19:44               ` Khalid Aziz [this message]
2016-03-07 19:54                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 20:41                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 20:58                     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:02                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 21:09                       ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 23:34                       ` James Morris
2016-03-07 23:48                   ` James Morris
2016-03-08  9:33                     ` James Morris
2016-03-07 18:09         ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 18:24           ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:16             ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:33               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:38                 ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:13                   ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-08  4:13                     ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:12                 ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 23:27                   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08  0:21               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-08  4:24                 ` David Miller
2016-03-07 23:32             ` Rob Gardner
2016-03-07 19:09         ` David Miller
2016-03-07 21:27           ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 21:34             ` David Miller
2016-03-07 22:30               ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 17:32 ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 17:35 ` Dave Hansen
2016-03-07 18:15   ` Khalid Aziz
2016-03-07 19:06   ` David Miller

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