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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/16] mm: use put_page to free page instead of putback_lru_page
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:57:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5704C168.1060803@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160406005403.GA29576@hori1.linux.bs1.fc.nec.co.jp>

On 04/06/2016 02:54 AM, Naoya Horiguchi wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 10:20:50AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>
>> So you agree that this race is a bug? It may turn a soft-offline attempt
>> into a killed process. In that case we should fix it the same as we are
>> fixing the failed migration case.
> 
> I agree, it's a bug, although rare and non-critical.
> 
>> Maybe it will be just enough to switch
>> the test_set_page_hwpoison() and put_page() calls?
> 
> Unfortunately that restores the other race with unpoison (described below.)
> Sorry for my bad/unclear statements, these races seems exclusive and a compatible
> solution is not found, so I prioritized fixing the latter one by comparing
> severity (the latter causes kernel crash,) which led to the current code.

Ah, I see. However unpoison is a functionality just for stress-testing,
and not expected to be used in production, right? So it's somewhat
unfortunate trade-off with danger of soft-offlining killing an unrelated
process.

>>> And another practical thing is the race with unpoison_memory() as described
>>> in commit da1b13ccfbebe. unpoison_memory() properly works only for properly
>>> poisoned pages, so doing unpoison for in-use hwpoisoned pages is fragile.
>>> That's why I'd like to avoid setting PageHWPoison for in-use pages if possible.
>>>
>>>> (Also, which part prevents pages with PageHWPoison to be allocated
>>>> again, anyway? I can't find it and test_set_page_hwpoison() doesn't
>>>> remove from buddy freelists).
>>>
>>> check_new_page() in mm/page_alloc.c should prevent reallocation of PageHWPoison.
>>> As you pointed out, memory error handler doens't remove it from buddy freelists.
>>
>> Oh, I see. It's using __PG_HWPOISON wrapper, so I didn't notice it when
>> searching. In any case that results in a bad_page() warning, right? Is
>> it desirable for a soft-offlined page?
> 
> That's right, and the bad_page warning might be too strong for soft offlining.
> We can't tell which of memory_failure/soft_offline_page a PageHWPoison came
> from, but users can find other lines in dmesg which should tell that.
> And memory error events can hit buddy pages directly, in that case we still
> need the check in check_new_page().

Ah, ok.

>> If we didn't free poisoned pages
>> to buddy system, they wouldn't trigger this warning.
> 
> Actually, we didn't free at commit add05cecef80 ("mm: soft-offline: don't free
> target page in successful page migration"), but that's was reverted in
> commit f4c18e6f7b5b ("mm: check __PG_HWPOISON separately from PAGE_FLAGS_CHECK_AT_*").
> Now I start thinking the revert was a bad decision, so I'll dig this problem again.

Good.

>>> BTW, it might be a bit off-topic, but recently I felt that check_new_page()
>>> might be improvable, because when check_new_page() returns 1, the whole buddy
>>> block (not only the bad page) seems to be leaked from buddy freelist.
>>> For example, if thp (order 9) is requested, and PageHWPoison (or any other
>>> types of bad pages) is found in an order 9 block, all 512 page are discarded.
>>> Unpoison can't bring it back to buddy.
>>> So, some code to split buddy block including bad page (and recovering code from
>>> unpoison) might be helpful, although that's another story ...
>>
>> Hm sounds like another argument for not freeing the page to buddy lists
>> in the first place. Maybe a hook in free_pages_check()?
> 
> Sounds a good idea. I'll try it, too.

So what I think could hopefully work is to replace the put_page() after
migration with a hwpoison-specific construct that does something like:

if (put_page_testzero(page))
     if (test_set_page_hwpoison()) ...
     __put_page()

With some more thought about what other parts of put_page() apply - how
to handle compound pages and zone-device pages.

That should hopefully be the safest course. When put_page_testzero()
succeeds, there should be no other (current of near-future) users of the
page, and we can still do whatever we need before releasing to
__put_page(). I.e. set the HWPoison flag, and maybe combine this with
modification to free_pages_check() to divert it from becoming a buddy page.

It should be even safer than the current "put_page();
test_set_page_hwpoison();" approach in that we are currently not
guaranteed that the put_page() is indeed releasing the last pin, but we
set HWPoison in any case. Although we have just migrated the page away,
there might be a pfn scanner holding its pin and checking the page.
Hopefully no such scanner has a path that would break on HWPoison flag,
but I don't know. By not setting the HWpoison when we don't succeed
put_page_testzero(), we are safer. It's true the page might stay
unpoisoned due to a temporary pin, but the process data was migrated
away which is the important part, and userspace can retry anyway?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-06  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-30  7:11 [PATCH v3 00/16] Support non-lru page migration Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] mm: use put_page to free page instead of putback_lru_page Minchan Kim
2016-04-01 12:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-04  1:39     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-04  4:45       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2016-04-04 14:46         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-05  1:54           ` Naoya Horiguchi
2016-04-05  8:20             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-06  0:54               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2016-04-06  7:57                 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2016-04-04  5:53   ` Balbir Singh
2016-04-04  6:01     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-05  3:10       ` Balbir Singh
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] mm/compaction: support non-lru movable page migration Minchan Kim
2016-04-01 21:29   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-04  5:12     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-04 13:24       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-07  2:35         ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-12  8:00   ` Chulmin Kim
2016-04-12 14:25     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] mm: add non-lru movable page support document Minchan Kim
2016-04-01 14:38   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-04  2:25     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-04 13:09       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-07  2:27         ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] mm/balloon: use general movable page feature into balloon Minchan Kim
2016-04-05 12:03   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-04-11  4:29     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] zsmalloc: keep max_object in size_class Minchan Kim
2016-04-17 15:08   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] zsmalloc: squeeze inuse into page->mapping Minchan Kim
2016-04-17 15:08   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-19  7:40     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] zsmalloc: remove page_mapcount_reset Minchan Kim
2016-04-17 15:11   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] zsmalloc: squeeze freelist into page->mapping Minchan Kim
2016-04-17 15:56   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-19  7:42     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] zsmalloc: move struct zs_meta from mapping to freelist Minchan Kim
2016-04-17 15:22   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] zsmalloc: factor page chain functionality out Minchan Kim
2016-04-18  0:33   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-19  7:46     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] zsmalloc: separate free_zspage from putback_zspage Minchan Kim
2016-04-18  1:04   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-19  7:51     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-19  7:53       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] zsmalloc: zs_compact refactoring Minchan Kim
2016-04-04  8:04   ` Chulmin Kim
2016-04-04  9:01     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] zsmalloc: migrate head page of zspage Minchan Kim
2016-04-06 13:01   ` Chulmin Kim
2016-04-07  0:34     ` Chulmin Kim
2016-04-07  0:43     ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-19  6:08   ` Chulmin Kim
2016-04-19  6:15     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] zsmalloc: use single linked list for page chain Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] zsmalloc: migrate tail pages in zspage Minchan Kim
2016-03-30  7:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] zram: use __GFP_MOVABLE for memory allocation Minchan Kim
2016-03-30 23:11 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] Support non-lru page migration Andrew Morton
2016-03-31  0:29   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-31  0:57     ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-31  0:57   ` Minchan Kim
2016-04-04 13:17 ` John Einar Reitan
2016-04-11  4:35   ` Minchan Kim

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