From: Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit mode
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 10:44:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <573593EE.6010502@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160513080458.GF20141@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 13/05/2016 10:04, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 10-05-16 13:56:30, Sebastian Frias wrote:
> [...]
>> NOTE: I understand that the overcommit mode can be changed dynamically thru
>> sysctl, but on embedded systems, where we know in advance that overcommit
>> will be disabled, there's no reason to postpone such setting.
>
> To be honest I am not particularly happy about yet another config
> option. At least not without a strong reason (the one above doesn't
> sound that way). The config space is really large already.
> So why a later initialization matters at all? Early userspace shouldn't
> consume too much address space to blow up later, no?
One thing I'm not quite clear on is: why was the default set
to over-commit on?
I suppose the biggest use-case is when a "large" process forks
only to exec microseconds later into a "small" process, it would
be silly to refuse that fork. But isn't that what the COW
optimization addresses, without the need for over-commit?
Another issue with overcommit=on is that some programmers seem
to take for granted that "allocations will never fail" and so
neglect to handle malloc == NULL conditions gracefully.
I tried to run LTP with overcommit off, and I vaguely recall that
I had more failures than with overcommit on. (Perhaps only those
tests that tickle the dreaded OOM assassin.)
Regards.
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-10 11:56 [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit mode Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 8:04 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 8:44 ` Mason [this message]
2016-05-13 9:52 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 12:00 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 12:39 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 13:11 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 13:32 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 13:51 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 14:35 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 14:54 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 15:15 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 13:34 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 14:14 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 14:23 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:02 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 15:01 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-05-13 15:15 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:25 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 14:51 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 14:59 ` Mason
2016-05-13 15:11 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-05-13 15:26 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 15:32 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:10 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:41 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-05-23 13:11 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 9:52 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 10:18 ` Mason
2016-05-13 10:42 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 11:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 12:15 ` Mason
2016-05-13 14:01 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 14:15 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:04 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-05-13 15:37 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-13 15:43 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-05-17 8:24 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-17 8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-17 16:16 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-17 17:29 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-18 15:19 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-18 16:28 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-17 20:16 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-18 15:18 ` Sebastian Frias
2016-05-19 7:14 ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-13 17:01 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-13 13:27 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-17 9:03 ` Mason
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