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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Liang Li <liang.z.li@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dgilbert@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 repost 6/7] mm: add the related functions to get free page info
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:16:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <579932D9.6000106@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160728010030-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 07/27/2016 03:05 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 09:40:56AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> On 07/26/2016 06:23 PM, Liang Li wrote:
>>> +	for_each_migratetype_order(order, t) {
>>> +		list_for_each(curr, &zone->free_area[order].free_list[t]) {
>>> +			pfn = page_to_pfn(list_entry(curr, struct page, lru));
>>> +			if (pfn >= start_pfn && pfn <= end_pfn) {
>>> +				page_num = 1UL << order;
>>> +				if (pfn + page_num > end_pfn)
>>> +					page_num = end_pfn - pfn;
>>> +				bitmap_set(bitmap, pfn - start_pfn, page_num);
>>> +			}
>>> +		}
>>> +	}
>>
>> Nit:  The 'page_num' nomenclature really confused me here.  It is the
>> number of bits being set in the bitmap.  Seems like calling it nr_pages
>> or num_pages would be more appropriate.
>>
>> Isn't this bitmap out of date by the time it's send up to the
>> hypervisor?  Is there something that makes the inaccuracy OK here?
> 
> Yes. Calling these free pages is unfortunate. It's likely to confuse
> people thinking they can just discard these pages.
> 
> Hypervisor sends a request. We respond with this list of pages, and
> the guarantee hypervisor needs is that these were free sometime between request
> and response, so they are safe to free if they are unmodified
> since the request. hypervisor can detect modifications so
> it can detect modifications itself and does not need guest help.

Ahh, that makes sense.

So the hypervisor is trying to figure out: "Which pages do I move?".  It
wants to know which pages the guest thinks have good data and need to
move.  But, the list of free pages is (likely) smaller than the list of
pages with good data, so it asks for that instead.

A write to a page means that it has valuable data, regardless of whether
it was in the free list or not.

The hypervisor only skips moving pages that were free *and* were never
written to.  So we never lose data, even if this "get free page info"
stuff is totally out of date.

The patch description and code comments are, um, a _bit_ light for this
level of subtlety. :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-27 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27  1:23 [PATCH v2 repost 0/7] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration Liang Li
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 1/7] virtio-balloon: rework deflate to add page to a list Liang Li
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 2/7] virtio-balloon: define new feature bit and page bitmap head Liang Li
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 3/7] mm: add a function to get the max pfn Liang Li
2016-07-27 22:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-27 22:52     ` Dave Hansen
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 4/7] virtio-balloon: speed up inflate/deflate process Liang Li
2016-07-27 16:03   ` Dave Hansen
2016-07-27 21:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  3:30       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28 22:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-29  1:08           ` [virtio-dev] " Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28  1:13     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28  1:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  6:36         ` [virtio-dev] " Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28 21:51           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-29  0:46             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-29 19:48             ` Dave Hansen
2016-08-02  0:28               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-27 21:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  3:06     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28 22:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-29  0:38         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-27 22:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  3:48     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 5/7] virtio-balloon: define feature bit and head for misc virt queue Liang Li
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 6/7] mm: add the related functions to get free page info Liang Li
2016-07-27 16:40   ` Dave Hansen
2016-07-27 22:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-27 22:16       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2016-07-27 23:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  4:36         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28  0:10     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28  0:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-27 22:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  5:30     ` [virtio-dev] " Li, Liang Z
2016-07-27  1:23 ` [PATCH v2 repost 7/7] virtio-balloon: tell host vm's " Liang Li
2016-07-27 22:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-07-28  7:50     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-07-28 21:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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