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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Lian Wang <lianux.mm@gmail.com>,
	damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: sj@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org,
	vbabka@kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
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	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	daichaobing@sangfor.com.cn, wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com,
	gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com, zengheng4@huawei.com,
	kasong@tencent.com, corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	lianux.wang@processmission.com, kunwu.chan@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm/damon: introduce DAMOS_SPLIT action
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:44:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59292ba2-e0cc-4e50-bb26-be9c15843a41@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260720030327.80153-1-lianux.mm@gmail.com>

On 7/20/26 04:03, Lian Wang wrote:
> DAMOS_SPLIT splits large folios in a target region down to a
> configured target order, using the existing split_folio_to_order().
> No new core-mm code or exported symbols are introduced.
> 
> Based on mm-unstable at 61cccb8363fc ("mm/swap, PM: hibernate:
> atomically replace hibernation pin").
> 
> Different addresses within a PMD-mapped folio resolve to the same
> PMD Accessed bit.  Accesses to a small part of the folio can
> therefore coarsen DAMON's observed hot set relative to the actual
> working set.
> 
> DAMOS already provides promotion actions (HUGEPAGE, COLLAPSE) but
> has no corresponding demotion action.  DAMOS_SPLIT fills this gap.
> It is a mechanism, not a policy -- it does not decide which folios
> to split.  Selection is left to DAMON's existing access patterns,
> filters, and future probe/PMU signals.
> 
> target_order selects the split target: 0 for order-0 base pages,
> or a supported smaller mTHP order.  Both anonymous and file-backed
> folios are supported.  The locking follows split_huge_pages_in_pid()
> in mm/huge_memory.c.
> 
> Tests
> =====
> 
> damos_split.py (VM + Kunpeng 920):
>   anon THP -> order-0 split: PASS
> 
> sangfor_exp.py (Kunpeng 920, tmpfs, 4096 MiB):
> 
>   - Created a 4 GiB PMD-mapped tmpfs workload.
>   - Applied DAMOS_SPLIT with target_order=0.
>   - ShmemPmdMapped dropped from 4194304 KiB to 0 in every round.
>   - Repeated for five rounds without functional failures.
> 
> The functional selftest (damos_split.py) is included in this series.
> Additional experiment scripts and raw results are available on
> request.  Performance characterization using masim [1] and KMB [2]
> is in progress.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/sjp38/masim
> [2] https://gitee.com/OpenCloudOS/kernel-multi-bench

Hi,

you give no real motivation and evaluation why this is required or why this
gives the user any benefit.

HUGEPAGE + COLLAPSE is clear: give me THPs in a size not controlled by user
space, because the expectation is that this memory will be performance sensitive.

A SPLIT with an explicit order is not really want we want and it does not fit
the existing primitives.

-- 
Cheers,

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-20  9:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-20  3:03 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm/damon: introduce DAMOS_SPLIT action Lian Wang
2026-07-20  3:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] " Lian Wang
2026-07-20  9:47   ` Gutierrez Asier
2026-07-20 10:02     ` Lian Wang
2026-07-20  3:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] mm/damon/vaddr: implement DAMOS_SPLIT handler Lian Wang
2026-07-20  3:03 ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] selftests/damon: add functional test for DAMOS_SPLIT Lian Wang
2026-07-20  9:28 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm/damon: introduce DAMOS_SPLIT action Gutierrez Asier
2026-07-20  9:43   ` Lian Wang
2026-07-20  9:44 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-20  9:56   ` Lian Wang
2026-07-20 19:12     ` Zi Yan

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