From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] mm: Introduce ptep_get_lockless_norecency()
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:39:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c8dbda1-5b89-4599-9bc2-f840e7bc6a74@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7aefa967-43aa-490b-ae0d-7d1455402e89@redhat.com>
On 26/03/2024 16:27, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 15.02.24 13:17, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> With the introduction of contpte mapping support for arm64, that
>> architecture's implementation of ptep_get_lockless() has become very
>> complex due to the need to gather access and dirty bits from across all
>> of the ptes in the contpte block. This requires careful implementation
>> to ensure the returned value is consistent (because its not possible to
>> read all ptes atomically), but even in the common case when there is no
>> racing modification, we have to read all ptes, which gives an ~O(n^2)
>> cost if the core-mm is iterating over a range, and performing a
>> ptep_get_lockless() on each pte.
>>
>> Solve this by introducing ptep_get_lockless_norecency(), which does not
>> make any guarantees about access and dirty bits. Therefore it can simply
>> read the single target pte.
>>
>> At the same time, convert all call sites that previously used
>> ptep_get_lockless() but don't care about access and dirty state.
>>
>
> I'd probably split that part off.
I thought the general guidance was to introduce new APIs in same patch they are
first used in? If I split this off, I'll have one patch for a new (unused) API,
then another for the first users.
>
>> We may want to do something similar for ptep_get() (i.e.
>> ptep_get_norecency()) in future; it doesn't suffer from the consistency
>> problem because the PTL serializes it with any modifications, but does
>> suffer the same O(n^2) cost.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
>> ---
>> include/linux/pgtable.h | 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>> kernel/events/core.c | 2 +-
>> mm/hugetlb.c | 2 +-
>> mm/khugepaged.c | 2 +-
>> mm/memory.c | 2 +-
>> mm/swap_state.c | 2 +-
>> mm/swapfile.c | 2 +-
>> 7 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> index a36cf4e124b0..9dd40fdbd825 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h
>> @@ -528,16 +528,47 @@ static inline pmd_t pmdp_get_lockless(pmd_t *pmdp)
>> #endif /* CONFIG_PGTABLE_LEVELS > 2 */
>> #endif /* CONFIG_GUP_GET_PXX_LOW_HIGH */
>>
>> -/*
>> - * We require that the PTE can be read atomically.
>> - */
>> #ifndef ptep_get_lockless
>> +/**
>> + * ptep_get_lockless - Get a pte without holding the page table lock. Young and
>> + * dirty bits are guaranteed to accurately reflect the state
>> + * of the pte at the time of the call.
>> + * @ptep: Page table pointer for pte to get.
>> + *
>> + * If young and dirty information is not required, use
>> + * ptep_get_lockless_norecency() which can be faster on some architectures.
>> + *
>> + * May be overridden by the architecture; otherwise, implemented using
>> + * ptep_get(), on the assumption that it is atomic.
>> + *
>> + * Context: Any.
>> + */
>
> I think we usually say "Any context.". But I would just do it like idr.h:
>
> "Any context. It is safe to call this function without locking in your code."
>
> ... but is this true? We really want to say "without page table lock". Because
> there must be some way to prevent against concurrent page table freeing. For
> example, GUP-fast disables IRQs, whereby page table freeing code frees using RCU.
How about:
"
Context: Any context that guarrantees the page table can't be freed
concurrently. The page table lock is not required.
"
>
>> static inline pte_t ptep_get_lockless(pte_t *ptep)
>> {
>> return ptep_get(ptep);
>> }
>> #endif
>>
>> +#ifndef ptep_get_lockless_norecency
>> +/**
>> + * ptep_get_lockless_norecency - Get a pte without holding the page table lock.
>> + * Young and dirty bits may not be accurate.
>> + * @ptep: Page table pointer for pte to get.
>> + *
>> + * Prefer this over ptep_get_lockless() when young and dirty information is not
>> + * required since it can be faster on some architectures.
>> + *
>> + * May be overridden by the architecture; otherwise, implemented using the more
>> + * precise ptep_get_lockless().
>> + *
>> + * Context: Any.
>
> Same comment.
>
>> + */
>> +static inline pte_t ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte_t *ptep)
>> +{
>> + return ptep_get_lockless(ptep);
>> +}
>> +#endif
>
> [...]
>
>> diff --git a/mm/hugetlb.c b/mm/hugetlb.c
>> index 68283e54c899..41dc44eb8454 100644
>> --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
>> +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
>> @@ -7517,7 +7517,7 @@ pte_t *huge_pte_alloc(struct mm_struct *mm, struct
>> vm_area_struct *vma,
>> }
>>
>> if (pte) {
>> - pte_t pteval = ptep_get_lockless(pte);
>> + pte_t pteval = ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte);
>>
>> BUG_ON(pte_present(pteval) && !pte_huge(pteval));
>> }
>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> index 2771fc043b3b..1a6c9ed8237a 100644
>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>> @@ -1019,7 +1019,7 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct
>> *mm,
>> }
>> }
>>
>> - vmf.orig_pte = ptep_get_lockless(pte);
>> + vmf.orig_pte = ptep_get_lockless_norecency(pte);
>> if (!is_swap_pte(vmf.orig_pte))
>> continue;
>
>
> Hm, I think you mentioned that we want to be careful with vmf.orig_pte.
Yeah good point. So I guess this should move to patch 3 (which may be dropped -
tbd)?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-26 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-15 12:17 [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Reduce cost of ptep_get_lockless on arm64 Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] mm: Introduce ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <7aefa967-43aa-490b-ae0d-7d1455402e89@redhat.com>
2024-03-26 16:39 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-03-27 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 9:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] mm/gup: Use ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 16:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] mm/memory: Use ptep_get_lockless_norecency() for orig_pte Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:27 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 9:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 17:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] arm64/mm: Override ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 16:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Reduce cost of ptep_get_lockless on arm64 David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:31 ` Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <de143212-49ce-4c30-8bfa-4c0ff613f107@redhat.com>
2024-03-26 16:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:32 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 10:01 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-03 12:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-08 8:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-09 16:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-10 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-11 9:45 ` Ryan Roberts
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2024-04-15 13:30 ` Ryan Roberts
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2024-04-15 15:17 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-15 15:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-15 15:53 ` Ryan Roberts
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